<![CDATA[Login-IDs gone]]>Re: Login-IDs File/DB or what
OS : Windows 10 Pro 64bit - Version : 2004 Build : 19041.610
Opera x64 - 72.0.3815.186

Days after upgrade Win10 to 2004 were a stabb in the back for Opera. Content in UserID/Password file was gone.
What I do know all versions behave perfect of Opera with Win10 version 1909.
My def. of Session ie exiting and restart. File means UserID/Password file. Login-ID ie User-ID and Password.
Tests
Cleaning Opera from PC, basic reinstall
Start Session 0 with empty File. Fetched a few new Login-IDs to Save. The File shows the fetched Login-IDs.
Start Session 1 File includes only the last fetched Login-ID. Fetched a few more Login-IDs to Save. Login-IDs showed up OK.
Exiting Opera, had a break.
New Session - The File showed casual a complete listing af former fetched Login-IDs (ab. 150 records from 1909 version). I have no explanation to it.
New Session - The File was empty.

It's obvious that this situation is a Microsoft problem, no blames to Opera.
When cleaning Opera traces how do old versions of Login-file survive ??
I will believe many users experience the same problem.
Are there any fix to update Win10 ??
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/topic/44699/login-ids-goneRSS for NodeSat, 16 May 2026 12:43:53 GMTSun, 01 Nov 2020 12:28:06 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:37:21 GMT]]>@leocg Neither had I when running OS version 1909.
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231748https://forums.opera.com/post/231748Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:37:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:26:39 GMT]]>@erik_s I've got:

fsutil behavior query disableLastAccess
DisableLastAccess = 2 (Gerenciado pelo Sistema, Desabilitado)

I'm have an SSD and don't have such issues with saved passwords.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231743https://forums.opera.com/post/231743Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:26:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:17:52 GMT]]>@burnout426 As I initial said - this is a SSD problem. Using trad HDD no problems.
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231741https://forums.opera.com/post/231741Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:17:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:05:01 GMT]]>I have Windows 10 2004 (Build 19041.572). I ran:

fsutil behavior query disableLastAccess

and get:

DisableLastAccess = 2  (System Managed, Disabled)

and everything works fine with Opera for me.

But, I'm not using an SSD.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231731https://forums.opera.com/post/231731Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:05:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 13:05:42 GMT]]>Tests so far:
![alt text](fsutil.jpg image url)
![alt text](disable 0.jpg image url)
![alt text](disable 2.jpg image url)

In documents from Microsoft the values for Disable/Enable are as shown in pic 1
Test value 0 : User Managed is set to Disable; see pic 2
Test value 2 : User Managed is set to Disable; see pic 3

It may seem that MS has switched the values for Disable/Enable options.
Access to LoginIDs via Password Manager so far is only through Value 0, but not permanent. It happens that LoginID-file just disappears during the Opera session.

At present MS forces enabling date stamp and ignores all SSD OS-installations.
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231705https://forums.opera.com/post/231705Thu, 05 Nov 2020 13:05:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 11:09:28 GMT]]>@burnout426
Did find an error in the parameters.
User Managed parameteres should be -
0 : disable
1 : enable
I'm in the start testing it using Option 1.
Can't tell more, but somehow I have access to my LoginID file, but I don't know the durability.
it's a strange problem as Microsoft force Enable to to parameter.
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231701https://forums.opera.com/post/231701Thu, 05 Nov 2020 11:09:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:08:54 GMT]]>@erik_s said in Login-IDs gone:

File Date Stamping

Have you tried changing/disabling it to see if it solves the problem? And, if so, what value did you set it to?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231675https://forums.opera.com/post/231675Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:08:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:03:28 GMT]]>Have observed one severe difference between OS Win10 1909 and 2004 - in 2004 File Date Stamping is set to ON by default. So far one has to make a surgical cut to fix the option.
To whom that use SSD for start-up, FDS should be OFF otherwise Opera/Password Manager will more or less miss references to LoginID db.
Check out this : https://winaero.com/disable-ntfs-last-access-time-updates-in-windows-10/
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231599https://forums.opera.com/post/231599Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:03:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Login-IDs gone on Mon, 02 Nov 2020 11:33:02 GMT]]>Or does Opera clear "Passwords and other sign-in data" by mistake ??

psw-06.jpg
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]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/231349https://forums.opera.com/post/231349Mon, 02 Nov 2020 11:33:02 GMT