Opera stable 70 - news
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@leocg said in Opera stable 70 - news:
once the experiment has ended
And it was really successful?
The feature had 2 crashes recently, 1 is fixed recently just before the Stable release, 2nd is still there.
Still no dark mode. Even the tip is not correct 'Search for open tabs', but it should be 'Search for tabs' because it also looks for recently closed tabs. The feature is 'raw' and they removed the flag already (taking into account that they most probably in course about all the negative on forum and in the blog). -
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andrew84 last edited by
@leocg There's a bunch of flags that are enabled by default in Stable but sill exist.
But I'm talking here about the particular flag, how they decide that the feature is stable, ready, successful and now it's time to remove the flag if the feature causes crashes and doesn't have the dark mode yet (while the Ctrl+Tab cycler does).
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A Former User last edited by
@leocg So it's supposed to degrade the user experience by being slow to operate and slow to use, and having an inferior (less information-dense and navigable) design to the vertical tab cycler? This is a failed experiment. Nobody wants this.
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@leocg said in Opera stable 70 - news:
The feature is ready
Crashes and inconsistency with the browser's other UI in dark mode tell that the feature is not ready (also cut functionality comparing to the previous TabMenu).
*Maybe it can be said that the 'Weather' feature is ready for example (moreover the feature can be simply turned off in Settings) , but the flag is not removed as you can see. The same is with 'Instagram' flag (extremely 'useful' flag I can say).
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tapedi2471 last edited by
@atomicthumbs It's supposed to allow users to search their tabs and that's what it does.
You don't even understand what feature he's talking about.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@tapedi2471 It seems that you didn't understand what is being discussed.
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tapedi2471 last edited by
@tapedi2471 It seems that you didn't understand what is being discussed.
You are a moderator and you aren't even trying to understand the messages you are replying to. Even when your mistake is explicitly pointed out, you just deflect it. atomicthumbs is talking about tab cycler, not about search in tabs/recently closed.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@tapedi2471 Vertical tab cycler was tabs menu, replaced in Opera 69 with search in tabs. In Opera 69, while the new feature were still being tested, you cloud disable it and return to tabs menu by turning off the search in tabs flags.
In Opera 70, with the ending of the testing period, the flag was removed and tabs menu no longer can be returned and, therefore, vertical tabs cycler.So, yes, the discussion is/was abou the search in tabs feature.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@tapedi2471 I know. Before, you could choose to use tabs menu to cycle tabs when using Ctrl + Tab.
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ymido last edited by
Retarded Opera team as always ignores users' opinions and forces them into using worse versions of liked-by-everyone fuctions by removing flags. I cant even fix that by addons because for some reason the add-on icon disappears a second after I install the extension. No wonder the marketshare.
https://forums.opera.com/topic/39170/where-is-the-recently-closed-tabs-tab-menu-button-on-the-top-right/273 -
tapedi2471 last edited by
@leocg Ah, I see your point now. But it's not helpful at the least: the menu is gone for no good reason and both tab cycling and access to the recently closed tabs got worse because of that.
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andrew84 last edited by
@leocg The TabMenu was used previously for cycling (Ctrl+Tab), but only open tabs were shown in this case . When pressing TabMenu button the full view was available. That's what can be called a well-designed and functional feature.
Now we have the separate cycling popup and the separate tabs popup, both are worse.
