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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by A Former User

      Where is the flag to switch back to the vertical tab cycler? The design of the horizontal one is completely unusable if you have a lot of tabs! If it's gone I'm going to have to switch to another web browser!

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

        @atomicthumbs The flag was removed since it's no longer necessary, once the experiment has ended.

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        • andrew84
          andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

          @leocg said in Opera stable 70 - news:

          once the experiment has ended

          And it was really successful?
          The feature had 2 crashes recently, 1 is fixed recently just before the Stable release, 2nd is still there.
          Still no dark mode. Even the tip is not correct 'Search for open tabs', but it should be 'Search for tabs' because it also looks for recently closed tabs. The feature is 'raw' and they removed the flag already (taking into account that they most probably in course about all the negative on forum and in the blog).

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

            @andrew84 Yes, the flag/feature was enabled in stable channel and, therefore, the flag was removed.

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            • andrew84
              andrew84 @leocg last edited by

              @leocg There's a bunch of flags that are enabled by default in Stable but sill exist.

              But I'm talking here about the particular flag, how they decide that the feature is stable, ready, successful and now it's time to remove the flag if the feature causes crashes and doesn't have the dark mode yet (while the Ctrl+Tab cycler does).

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                @andrew84 Yes, there is. But it seems to me that now they are trying to remove a flag once it gets enabled in stable channel.

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                  @andrew84 The feature is ready and does what it is supposed to do. Eventual issues will be deal in bug fixing.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @leocg last edited by

                    @leocg So it's supposed to degrade the user experience by being slow to operate and slow to use, and having an inferior (less information-dense and navigable) design to the vertical tab cycler? This is a failed experiment. Nobody wants this.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                      @atomicthumbs It's supposed to allow users to search their tabs and that's what it does.

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                      • andrew84
                        andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

                        @leocg said in Opera stable 70 - news:

                        The feature is ready

                        Crashes and inconsistency with the browser's other UI in dark mode tell that the feature is not ready (also cut functionality comparing to the previous TabMenu).

                        *Maybe it can be said that the 'Weather' feature is ready for example (moreover the feature can be simply turned off in Settings) , but the flag is not removed as you can see. The same is with 'Instagram' flag (extremely 'useful' flag I can say).

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                          @andrew84 I guess some flags are simply forgotten but they are removed at some point.

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                          • tapedi2471
                            tapedi2471 @leocg last edited by

                            @atomicthumbs It's supposed to allow users to search their tabs and that's what it does.

                            You don't even understand what feature he's talking about.

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                            • andrew84
                              andrew84 @leocg last edited by

                              @leocg Very strange, there are many flags still persist in Stable (workspaces, sidebar related and other), but they remove almost most recent flag for the feature that has quite a lot of complaints.

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer @tapedi2471 last edited by

                                @tapedi2471 It seems that you didn't understand what is being discussed.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                  @andrew84 Same answer as above. And remember that the ones working on one are not necessarily the ones working on the others.

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                                  • tapedi2471
                                    tapedi2471 @leocg last edited by

                                    @tapedi2471 It seems that you didn't understand what is being discussed.

                                    You are a moderator and you aren't even trying to understand the messages you are replying to. Even when your mistake is explicitly pointed out, you just deflect it. atomicthumbs is talking about tab cycler, not about search in tabs/recently closed.

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @tapedi2471 last edited by

                                      @tapedi2471 Vertical tab cycler was tabs menu, replaced in Opera 69 with search in tabs. In Opera 69, while the new feature were still being tested, you cloud disable it and return to tabs menu by turning off the search in tabs flags.
                                      In Opera 70, with the ending of the testing period, the flag was removed and tabs menu no longer can be returned and, therefore, vertical tabs cycler.

                                      So, yes, the discussion is/was abou the search in tabs feature.

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                                      • tapedi2471
                                        tapedi2471 @leocg last edited by

                                        @leocg Tab cycler is what you get when you press Ctrl+Tab.

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @tapedi2471 last edited by

                                          @tapedi2471 I know. Before, you could choose to use tabs menu to cycle tabs when using Ctrl + Tab.

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                                          • ymido
                                            ymido last edited by

                                            Retarded Opera team as always ignores users' opinions and forces them into using worse versions of liked-by-everyone fuctions by removing flags. I cant even fix that by addons because for some reason the add-on icon disappears a second after I install the extension. No wonder the marketshare.
                                            https://forums.opera.com/topic/39170/where-is-the-recently-closed-tabs-tab-menu-button-on-the-top-right/273

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