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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      This is the way Opera will work from now on, with small and silent updates.

      I'd say that updating an entire version of O is not a small event. 🙂

      Indeed

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      • Deleted User
        Deleted User last edited by

        Always fighting. Always bickering about this point or that one. Everyone seems to have his opinion and readily defends it against all comers. Ah... pride is such a hard thing to relinquish. I'm right... you're wrong... so there!

        Okay, I'll express my opinion as well (might as well). I agree with lem that notification of an upgrade should be provided BUT I'm not going to make this a deal-breaker as some have declared.

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        • lem729
          lem729 last edited by

          I not that worried about the permission thing, other than, if you've changed features, let people know. It shows the browser is being worked on. And maybe I'll find the new features helpful. Indeed, if I"m aware of them I might use them. 🙂 By the way, on the "heart" features at the right of the address bar, I discovered if you go into Opera://flags, you can change that feature and go back to what was before by disabling it. I'm just mentioning that in case any users are unhappy with the change. For me, it's okay.

          On about Opera, under browser identification, you get the following: "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.125 Safari/537.36 OPR/23.0.1522.60." Now that probably was what was there before, but it does have me puzzling, now that I'm focusing on it. Does anyone know why that's there? I mean if you're not using the User-Agent Switcher extension, I thought the browser automatically identifies as Opera.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            It would be nice if Opera at least announced major updates to the user.

            Maybe bt showing a page with the changelog? I think it could be interesting.

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            • sgunhouse
              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Opera Presto always showed the Welcome to Opera page, but the blog post or changelog would be more informative.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                On about Opera, under browser identification, you get the following: "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.125 Safari/537.36 OPR/23.0.1522.60." Now that probably was what was there before, but it does have me puzzling, now that I'm focusing on it. Does anyone know why that's there? I mean if you're not using the User-Agent Switcher extension, I thought the browser automatically identifies as Opera.

                It's for compatibility and have been that way since Opera 15 iirc. What identifies it as Opera is the OPR/build part.

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                • sgunhouse
                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  Ever seen the user agent in Chrome? Yeah, looks a lot like that.

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                  • burkeknight
                    burkeknight last edited by

                    Auto update without permission, opening the browser automatically when doing so, is plain wrong. I also will stop using opera.
                    Also, your reply text area on this forum, reverts to smaller than one line when typing, making it hard to see what ytou are typing.

                    Seems to me, opera needs to work on their customer relations, and the fact that auto-anything is being frowned upon now due to malware, etc. The also need to get a better community forum program.

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                    • myopera23
                      myopera23 last edited by

                      Ok thanks. I'll just reinstall O22 and block autoupdate.exe.

                      It's no good. 'opera_autoupdate.exe' blocked, but O22 still manages to upgrade to O23. Even after reinstalling O22 whilst 'opera_autoupdate.exe' was already blocked.

                      Time to switch to Firefox/chrome. Shame, O22 was way more compatible with the websites I frequent than any other version.

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                      • myopera23
                        myopera23 last edited by

                        Forgot to ask how to export bookmarks in O23? If I remember correctly, there was an option to export bookmarks to an html file in previous versions.

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                        • christoph142
                          christoph142 last edited by

                          Why would you wanna keep an outdated version (unless you're on Windows 7 and experiencing this bloody Auto-hide bug)?

                          (You can start Opera with the
                          --disable-update
                          command line switch. But remember to remove it again when it's not necessary anymore to prevent ending up with outdated versions.)

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by admin

                            Why would you wanna keep an outdated version (unless you're on Windows 7 and experiencing this bloody Auto-hide bug)?
                            There's no point, there's even a workaround for it: https://forums.opera.com/post/45986

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                            • indonesian
                              indonesian last edited by

                              blackbird71 wrote:

                              When Opera changes their code "unannounced", it affects only their browser **and those choosing to use it. **Websites are software with functions too, there are web apps, etc. Also, it's very possible leaving Opera outdated will affect websites' functions in the same way or worse than code changes in the new version. 🙂

                              Very primitive minded answer! ....... or it could be agenda related .... because 1 + 1 = 2

                              Now I will search for a way how to disable this function created by Googles for known obvious reasons ......
                              **
                              Its not Opera we talking about ........ Its the Google way & system at work here!

                              In case no one noticed yet!

                              **

                              Because its bad news in so many different ways......


                              **
                              **
                              The same thing just happened from the Opera Developer Version 24.0.1558.17 to Version: 24.0.1558.21 - Opera is up to date
                              **

                              I just tried to fix up a problem with one extension & the upgrade runs in the back without me knowing about it!

                              Now something is working with the extension which did not work before; but now it does for mystical reasons!

                              So problem solving becomes imposable with such system for starters!!!
                              **

                              __Sorry to say; but Auto update is not the way to go at all!!!

                              Downloading things into your computer without knowing it; is not the way to go! __

                              In my case I like to know exactly what & when things getting placed onto my computer
                              especially getting downloaded into my Program Files(86x) directory!!

                              No, no I smell a big rat here!

                              **
                              Yes Mr. @blackbird71 you are right;
                              free man has free Will & free choice what to support and what not to support or blindly submits too; without thinking just past today!


                              Is it not especially these creators of software which are security fanatics?

                              So why does that not apply here downloading things into your personal computer without knowing about it?

                              Looks a bit like a double standard playing out here!

                              (Is this not all about it when it comes to your individual security of your own computer system?)

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                              • Deleted User
                                Deleted User last edited by

                                I don't see any problem, Chrome has done that for years.

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                                • linuxmint7
                                  linuxmint7 last edited by

                                  Everyone who is using the Opera Blink (Chromium based) browser, and complaining about the 'Auto-update' feature updating Opera without their knowledge needs to read the E.U.L text that was displayed (and they obviously agreed to) when Opera was installed. Specifically point 1, 2.3, 2.4 and 7.1.

                                  The text can be found in the resource folder of where you installed the latest version of Opera in text format.

                                  All clear now ?.

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                                  • indonesian
                                    indonesian last edited by admin

                                    No more arguments; we only needs solutions not any arguments in this world full of madness & control freaks! >>>>

                                    Here we go boys & girls ...... for those which like & need it? ...... Simple Fix >> SOLVED FOR ME!

                                    Opera automatically updating from version 22 to 23 without my knowledge or permission!

                                    My quick workaround option! ....... SOLVED!

                                    Op's Posting

                                    https://forums.opera.com/topic/4121/opera-automatically-updating-from-version-22-to-23-without-my-knowledge-or-permission

                                    __Here we go __.....

                                    For starters I found these lines within my reg file>>>

                                    Just play around with the two options & try the second option first by renaming the specific files ......
                                    ONLY; then move to the registry if this was not enough?

                                    They must have joint these action operation with there Laucher.exe once executed!

                                    Option 1):

                                    Make a registry backup first & then remove these entries should to the trick!

                                    Make a backup first & then Delete these entries :
                                    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OperaDeveloper\shell\open\command

                                    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Developer\Launcher.exe" -noautoupdate -- "%1"

                                    Make a backup first & then Delete this entry :

                                    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\OperaDeveloper\shell\open\command

                                    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Developer\Launcher.exe" -noautoupdate -- "%1"

                                    Make a backup first & then Delete this entry :

                                    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\StartMenuInternet\OperaDeveloper\shell\open\command

                                    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Developer\Launcher.exe"

                                    Option (2) which did do the trick for me:
                                    You may just rename these files in your Program file location ........ just in case so they not getting called on & recreating the (reg) entry :

                                    Find these files & just rename them temporary until you ready to update your version to a new one:

                                    File Locations depending which version you run:

                                    1. C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera\23.0.1522.60

                                    0a) C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera\launcher.exe

                                    1. C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Developer\launcher.exe

                                    2. C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Developer\24.0.1558.17

                                    3. C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Developer\24.0.1558.21

                                    2a, 3a) launcher.exe >>>> to >>> ( _launcher.exe )

                                    2b, 3b) installer.exe >>>> to >>> ( _installer.exe )

                                    3a, 3b) opera_autoupdate.exe >>>> to >>> ( opera_autoupdate.exe )

                                    1. & * Note: launcher_lib.dll >>>> to >>> ( _launcher_lib.dll ) >>> * Note: only works for Opera Developer (don't rename it on Stable version)

                                    Also link all your Opera Shortcuts to the ( opera.exe ) directly so you bypassing the original Laucher.exe Shortcut which opens opera browser!

                                    Now I can call up the individual versions & it will not override it through updating it appears!

                                    You can watch the update proses result attempt in the ( About Opera page) beside the version number it shows up.

                                    Should shows this message Version: 23.0.1522.60 - An error occurred while checking for update

                                    Should shows this message (24.0.1558.17 - Failed to download update)

                                    Should shows this message (24.0.1558.21- Failed to download update)

                                    Or this message ( 24.0.1558.21 - An error occurred while checking for updates)

                                    Or this message (24.0.1558.17 - An error occurred while checking for updates)

                                    In my case only the renaming of all these files did the trick ......... no more updating!!

                                    I actually did the renaming first & I did not need to remove any of the registry entry & it fails to update!1

                                    Good! ........ problem solved at least for me!

                                    Now I can call up the individual versions too!

                                    Some more stuff here:

                                    http://truth-zone.co.uk/forum/internet-and-information-technology/63844-a-general-computer-tip-hints-help-fixes-questions-suggestions-solutions-ideas-html-code-bbcode-etc.html?start=40#120926

                                    I love to solve problems

                                    Regards:

                                    MO

                                    .

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                                    • sgunhouse
                                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                      Auto update without permission, opening the browser automatically when doing so, is plain wrong. I also will stop using opera.

                                      The browser doesn't open when background updating. Okay, an "opera.exe" process appears in the task manager, but nothing at all appears (which was actually the complaint in this thread).

                                      Also, your reply text area on this forum, reverts to smaller than one line when typing, making it hard to see what you are typing.

                                      You must be posting with Firefox. So far everyone reporting that was using Firefox.

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                                      • cjdennis
                                        cjdennis last edited by

                                        This is the way Opera will work from now on, with small and silent updates.

                                        Silent: yes, minor: yes, but not small! The updates need to be configurable from within Opera. e.g:

                                        • Auto updates On/Off
                                        • Notify about a newer version and ask user whether they want to download it (à la FileZilla)
                                        • Download updates automatically but don't install without user permission (à la Windows Updates)

                                        I don't get a huge amount of data on my internet plan and frequent updates by Opera could be enough to push me over the limit, so my free software could end up costing me money! So far in August 2014 there have been three updates, roughly once a week:

                                        • 23.0.1522.72 – 2014-08-06
                                        • 23.0.1522.75 – 2014-08-12
                                        • 23.0.1522.77 – 2014-08-19

                                        I don't want to completely disable auto updates, just not update quite as often as Opera releases minor versions.

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                                        • Deleted User
                                          Deleted User last edited by admin

                                          I saw this post and the workaround there solved the problem for me.
                                          https://forums.opera.com/post/41321

                                          Right-click on the desktop and create a shortcut. When asked for the location of the item, put the following:
                                          "C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera\launcher.exe" --disable-update

                                          That will be the "Target:". "Start in:" can be blank. After creating the shortcut, you can pin it to the taskbar and/or start menu, and you can also move it off the desktop to another folder (I moved my shortcut to the Opera folder).

                                          Now whenever you go to open Opera, click on the shortcut you just created. This will prevent Opera from auto-updating.

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                                          • blackbird71
                                            blackbird71 last edited by

                                            ...
                                            Now whenever you go to open Opera, click on the shortcut you just created. This will prevent Opera from auto-updating.

                                            But if Opera is set as your default browser for URL links in other programs, should you click on one of those links, you will have just bypassed your "special" shortcut and auto-started Opera directly... in which case, you may be surprised by an unexpected 'pending' update.

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