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    • lando242
      lando242 last edited by

      Win 38

      It might be that your future technology isn't compatible with our primitive technologies. Nice to know that Windows 38 has pretty good backwards compatibility though.

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      • bbildman
        bbildman last edited by

        So....are you reporting that with O38.0.2220.41, the link above DOES show a bar code at the bottom of each page?? or are you using a different version of Opera??

        Where do I report bugs etc??

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        • idrin
          idrin last edited by

          To report desktop issues, please use this one: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/desktop

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          • lando242
            lando242 last edited by

            Viewing that page in Edge: No bar code, no form filling.
            Viewing in Chrome: No bar code, has form filling.
            Viewing in Opera: No bar code, has form filling.
            Viewing in Internet Explorer: No bar code, has form filling.
            Viewing in FoxIt PDF reader: No bar code, has form filling.
            Viewing in Windows 10 PDF Reader: No bar code, has form filling.

            So, based on that I'm thinking the bar code thing is broken. The most I get is a couple of letters or numbers down then when I fill in fields.

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            • bbildman
              bbildman last edited by

              IE11 AND O12.17 have the bar code here....on each of the 12 pages.

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              • bbildman
                bbildman last edited by

                Just to expand the discussion, here is the documentation from the US Customs & Immigration Service page for filling out certain PDF files that include 2D bar codes::

                "New Data Collection Technologies: Beginning with Form I-90, Application to Replace Permanent Resident Card, we will publish our high-volume forms with 2D barcode technology. When you complete these forms using a computer, the barcode at the bottom of the page will store the data entered on the form. We will be able to scan the information from the barcode and upload it directly to USCIS systems, allowing us to improve data quality and operational efficiency."

                Please visit this page which includes an image of an example of a PDF page that includes 2D bar code at the bottom.

                https://www.uscis.gov/forms/forms-updates/uscis-form-improvements-initiative

                With thousands of applicants using the USCIS pages that include links to on-line fill-in PDF files (downloadable AFTER filling them in with on-line for submission to the Dept of State) with 2D bar code that allows the Dept of State to scan documents, it seems remiss for ANY browser not to display these correctly...including Opera 38.0.2220.41.

                Thanks for putting up with my queries, but this is important.

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                • donq
                  donq last edited by

                  Viewing in Opera: No bar code, has form filling.
                  Viewing in Internet Explorer: No bar code, has form filling.
                  Viewing in FoxIt PDF reader (even with javascript enabled): No bar code, has form filling.

                  Looks like I have something missing on my PC too. Some font perhaps? (PDF doesn't include any barcode fonts.) Or do I live on wrong region (non-US)?

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                  • bbildman
                    bbildman last edited by

                    Don't think it's about "barcode fonts" because both my Opera 12.17 AND IE11 (Windows 7) display the barcode correctly - including form filling - on each page. Only Opera 38.0.2220.41 does not on my system. Someone here mentioned Chrome does not display the barcode.

                    I believe this is a bug within the Chrome/Opera PDF internal extension

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                    • donq
                      donq last edited by

                      My and lando242 IE doesn't display this barcode either, only few numbers are visible and changing - can't be only Chrome thing.

                      MS Edge even didn't show these changing numbers instead of barcode.

                      Does anyone have Adobe reader to try out? Has anyone besides original poster seen any barcodes on that PDF at all? 🙂

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                      • bbildman
                        bbildman last edited by

                        My and lando242 IE doesn't display this barcode either, only few numbers are visible and changing - can't be Chrome thing.>

                        Are you using IE 11 and Windows 7?? Because if so, that is mighty curious, as I am able to go toi that link and IE 11 definitely has the barcode.

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                        • donq
                          donq last edited by

                          Windows 10 and its native IE.

                          What I read from your forms website: " We are publishing many of our forms in a 2-column, Adobe fillable format. " Can it be possible that you need Adobe PDF components to see barcode? I have none here 😞 IE is using Foxit component, Opera its internal one and Edge most likely its internal one either.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Are you using IE 11 and Windows 7??

                            For me, IE on Windows 10 doesn't even open the PDF, it asks me where I want to open it.

                            Maybe you are opening it in a PDF reader like Adobe?

                            I'm asking because Opera Presto can't open PDFs on its own.

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                            • bbildman
                              bbildman last edited by

                              Opera 38.0.2220.41 definitely opens PDFs on its own, due to the included Chrome PDF Viewer (2 files) (check your plugin list in Settings/Developer/Plugins).

                              If you disable the internal Chrome PDF Viewer (2 files) in Opera, and click on the PDF link I posted in the first message in this thread, Opera will ask you where you want to download it (instead of opening it within Opera. Which defeats completely the entire worth of the on-line version that has barcodes that will change each time you fill in a blank and when finally filled out on-line will allow you to download it WITH the blanks filled in and also the appropriate 2D barcodes.

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                              • donq
                                donq last edited by

                                Sorry, this page is static PDF and it will be filled identically either online or offline.

                                Maybe I was not clear earlier - do you have Adobe PDF Reader installed? From this entire thread I can conclude exactly one thing - this barcode is visible only in Adobe Reader.

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                                • bbildman
                                  bbildman last edited by

                                  Yes I have Reader installed. BUT the page when displayed online is using the Opera/Chrome PDF Reader extension that is internal and a part of Opera. I do not know what would happen if I did not have Reader installed and opened the PDF link. If you install Opera and do not have Reader installed, would Opera tell you to download Reader in order to open the PDF page...or just open it using its own PDF intrinsic reader?

                                  I believe the issue is Opera's intrinsic PDF Reader, because IE11 and O12.17 use an already installed Adobe Reader to display it within the web page.

                                  IMO, the function of Opera's internal PDF Viewer SHOULD BE to replicate exactly the way Adobe Reader displays PDF content. If it does not, it is remiss because Adobe Reader is the defacto PDF Reader across all platforms.

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    Opera 38.0.2220.41 definitely opens PDFs on its own, due to the included Chrome PDF Viewer

                                    Yep, but not Opera Presto (Opera 12 and older) like i said. It demands a PDF reader plugin to open PDF files inline.

                                    I do not know what would happen if I did not have Reader installed and opened the PDF link. If you install Opera and do not have Reader installed, would Opera tell you to download Reader in order to open the PDF page...or just open it using its own PDF intrinsic reader?

                                    What Opera? Like i said, Opera Presto needs a plugin to open PDFs so if there isn't one then it asks what to do with the file.
                                    Opera Blink will probably use CXhromium PDF reader plugin.

                                    I believe the issue is Opera's intrinsic PDF Reader, because IE11 and O12.17 use an already installed Adobe Reader to display it within the web page.

                                    It would be interesting to know how other PDF readers behave on this.

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                                    • bbildman
                                      bbildman last edited by

                                      Leo, my comments all pertain to Opera Blink, because for me the only issue is O38's inability to display THIS PDF correctly. The only reason I brought up Opera Presto is because it DOES work perfectly with this PDF. My intent is to bring to light the insufficiency of the internal Chrome viewer used by Opera Blink.

                                      My sense is that the Dept of State targeted ADOBE Reader (the industry standard) in developing their 2D Barcode. I filed a bug report, so let's see if it gets corrected.

                                      Mucho thanks for your input.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Opera 11.62 loads and displays the document and form.
                                        It doesn't seem to work very well in this browser, but yes, I can see the "bar code", kinda in the middle there.
                                        I do have an Adobe Reader installation here on my system, as well as various other products of Adobe.

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                                        • bbildman
                                          bbildman last edited by

                                          I have found a solution, if you simply save the empty (not filled in) PDF to a folder from within Opera (at this point there is NO barcode)...and then open it using Adobe Reader, voilà...there is the barcode that changes each time you do an entry. The PDF file IS fillable and savable off-line, and the barcode DOES change each time you make an entry (tic a box or fill in any of the empty entry boxes).

                                          My mistake was ASSUMING that if you saved the Opera opened PDF file and then re-opened it in Reader, the resulting PDF would also have no barcode. I was wrong, and now the issue is mute.

                                          Thanks to all for responding.

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