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    • brabant
      brabant last edited by

      Firefox is customizable and one of the fastes. Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser. X/

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser

        It's totally off-topic here in this topic. Anyway, i don't see such tool-bar here unless the page uses it.

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          ugh, sorry but chromium is neither light nor fast
          adding UI customitibility wouldn't change that

          just compare Pale Moon to Opera
          PM is 2-3x lighter in resources, equally fast, yet has quite good UI customise options

          so the "based on chromium" is bad just bad excuse

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            I would say that the majority of users don't really care about customization, they on;y want to be able to access their (favorite) pages and interact with them.

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            • Deleted User
              Deleted User last edited by

              in that case, no addons or controls are needed
              just adressbar and back/reload button

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              • sgunhouse
                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                Just remember here, leocg and I are just users. We may help out in the forums here answering questions and moderating, but we have no more input into decision making than anyone else. He is telling you what the developers have posted elsewhere, but he is not a developer.

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  see that is the problem
                  users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

                  this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
                  why - coz nothing "goes through"

                  saddest thing is that it takes 6-10 extensions (which makes even more bloat) to make
                  this half assed browser act like ex Opera

                  and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
                  for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    see that is the problem
                    users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

                    This is mainly a forum for users to help each other. Although people from Opera may come here eventually and even make comments, you should not expect it to happen.

                    this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
                    why - coz nothing "goes through"

                    This is not true, lots of things has changed because of people's feedback.

                    and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
                    for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

                    The regular 32 bits version works fine. They can't release a 64 bits version without testing it enough to make sure it's stable enough to go to stable channel.

                    If they had done that, people would be complaining about it.

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                      Deleted User last edited by

                      "The regular 32 bits version works fine."

                      except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        "The regular 32 bits version works fine."
                        except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

                        Can't confirm that.

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                        • lando242
                          lando242 last edited by

                          except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

                          The RAM limit for a 32-bit process is about 4 gigabytes. Each tab, extension and add-on in Opera is its own process. Each has its own 4 gigabyte limit. If you have a single tab or extension that is trying to use over 4 GB of RAM you have a problem. I regularly top 4 GB total usage in Opera without any performance problems. It only uses about 20-100 megabytes per tab though, depending on what that tab is doing.

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