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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      aaaaah is there a way to change

      1. toolbar buttons, as in remove some
      2. remove in tab bar, or is it still title bar, the annoying "arrow down" button of open and closed tabs ?
      3. to make opera open tabs as in 10,11,12, new opened tabs go "at the end", and not by the active one ?
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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Not possible. For 3 you may find a extension.

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          well that blows, so Opera will stay simply locked forever with its ui ?

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            well that blows, so Opera will stay simply locked forever with its ui ?

            Only time will tell.

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              Chromium which Opera is based on isn't well known for its customizability unfortunately; it's intended to be a light and fast browser, and to achieve that there are compromises to be made.

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              • brabant
                brabant last edited by

                Firefox is customizable and one of the fastes. Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser. X/

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser

                  It's totally off-topic here in this topic. Anyway, i don't see such tool-bar here unless the page uses it.

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                  • Deleted User
                    Deleted User last edited by

                    ugh, sorry but chromium is neither light nor fast
                    adding UI customitibility wouldn't change that

                    just compare Pale Moon to Opera
                    PM is 2-3x lighter in resources, equally fast, yet has quite good UI customise options

                    so the "based on chromium" is bad just bad excuse

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      I would say that the majority of users don't really care about customization, they on;y want to be able to access their (favorite) pages and interact with them.

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                      • Deleted User
                        Deleted User last edited by

                        in that case, no addons or controls are needed
                        just adressbar and back/reload button

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                        • sgunhouse
                          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Just remember here, leocg and I are just users. We may help out in the forums here answering questions and moderating, but we have no more input into decision making than anyone else. He is telling you what the developers have posted elsewhere, but he is not a developer.

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            see that is the problem
                            users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

                            this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
                            why - coz nothing "goes through"

                            saddest thing is that it takes 6-10 extensions (which makes even more bloat) to make
                            this half assed browser act like ex Opera

                            and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
                            for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              see that is the problem
                              users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

                              This is mainly a forum for users to help each other. Although people from Opera may come here eventually and even make comments, you should not expect it to happen.

                              this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
                              why - coz nothing "goes through"

                              This is not true, lots of things has changed because of people's feedback.

                              and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
                              for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

                              The regular 32 bits version works fine. They can't release a 64 bits version without testing it enough to make sure it's stable enough to go to stable channel.

                              If they had done that, people would be complaining about it.

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                              • Deleted User
                                Deleted User last edited by

                                "The regular 32 bits version works fine."

                                except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  "The regular 32 bits version works fine."
                                  except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

                                  Can't confirm that.

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                                  • lando242
                                    lando242 last edited by

                                    except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

                                    The RAM limit for a 32-bit process is about 4 gigabytes. Each tab, extension and add-on in Opera is its own process. Each has its own 4 gigabyte limit. If you have a single tab or extension that is trying to use over 4 GB of RAM you have a problem. I regularly top 4 GB total usage in Opera without any performance problems. It only uses about 20-100 megabytes per tab though, depending on what that tab is doing.

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