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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      well that blows, so Opera will stay simply locked forever with its ui ?

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        well that blows, so Opera will stay simply locked forever with its ui ?

        Only time will tell.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          Chromium which Opera is based on isn't well known for its customizability unfortunately; it's intended to be a light and fast browser, and to achieve that there are compromises to be made.

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          • brabant
            brabant last edited by

            Firefox is customizable and one of the fastes. Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser. X/

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser

              It's totally off-topic here in this topic. Anyway, i don't see such tool-bar here unless the page uses it.

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              • Deleted User
                Deleted User last edited by

                ugh, sorry but chromium is neither light nor fast
                adding UI customitibility wouldn't change that

                just compare Pale Moon to Opera
                PM is 2-3x lighter in resources, equally fast, yet has quite good UI customise options

                so the "based on chromium" is bad just bad excuse

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  I would say that the majority of users don't really care about customization, they on;y want to be able to access their (favorite) pages and interact with them.

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                  • Deleted User
                    Deleted User last edited by

                    in that case, no addons or controls are needed
                    just adressbar and back/reload button

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Just remember here, leocg and I are just users. We may help out in the forums here answering questions and moderating, but we have no more input into decision making than anyone else. He is telling you what the developers have posted elsewhere, but he is not a developer.

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                      • Deleted User
                        Deleted User last edited by

                        see that is the problem
                        users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

                        this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
                        why - coz nothing "goes through"

                        saddest thing is that it takes 6-10 extensions (which makes even more bloat) to make
                        this half assed browser act like ex Opera

                        and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
                        for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          see that is the problem
                          users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

                          This is mainly a forum for users to help each other. Although people from Opera may come here eventually and even make comments, you should not expect it to happen.

                          this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
                          why - coz nothing "goes through"

                          This is not true, lots of things has changed because of people's feedback.

                          and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
                          for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

                          The regular 32 bits version works fine. They can't release a 64 bits version without testing it enough to make sure it's stable enough to go to stable channel.

                          If they had done that, people would be complaining about it.

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            "The regular 32 bits version works fine."

                            except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              "The regular 32 bits version works fine."
                              except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

                              Can't confirm that.

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                              • lando242
                                lando242 last edited by

                                except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

                                The RAM limit for a 32-bit process is about 4 gigabytes. Each tab, extension and add-on in Opera is its own process. Each has its own 4 gigabyte limit. If you have a single tab or extension that is trying to use over 4 GB of RAM you have a problem. I regularly top 4 GB total usage in Opera without any performance problems. It only uses about 20-100 megabytes per tab though, depending on what that tab is doing.

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