change some settings?

  • aaaaah is there a way to change

    1. toolbar buttons, as in remove some
    2. remove in tab bar, or is it still title bar, the annoying "arrow down" button of open and closed tabs ?
    3. to make opera open tabs as in 10,11,12, new opened tabs go "at the end", and not by the active one ?
  • Not possible. For 3 you may find a extension.

  • well that blows, so Opera will stay simply locked forever with its ui ?

  • well that blows, so Opera will stay simply locked forever with its ui ?

    Only time will tell.

  • Chromium which Opera is based on isn't well known for its customizability unfortunately; it's intended to be a light and fast browser, and to achieve that there are compromises to be made.

  • Firefox is customizable and one of the fastes. Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser. X/

  • Having a Google translate toolbar at every screen you open is an annoyment that makes you look for another browser

    It's totally off-topic here in this topic. Anyway, i don't see such tool-bar here unless the page uses it.

  • ugh, sorry but chromium is neither light nor fast
    adding UI customitibility wouldn't change that

    just compare Pale Moon to Opera
    PM is 2-3x lighter in resources, equally fast, yet has quite good UI customise options

    so the "based on chromium" is bad just bad excuse

  • I would say that the majority of users don't really care about customization, they on;y want to be able to access their (favorite) pages and interact with them.

  • in that case, no addons or controls are needed
    just adressbar and back/reload button

  • Just remember here, leocg and I are just users. We may help out in the forums here answering questions and moderating, but we have no more input into decision making than anyone else. He is telling you what the developers have posted elsewhere, but he is not a developer.

  • see that is the problem
    users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

    this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
    why - coz nothing "goes through"

    saddest thing is that it takes 6-10 extensions (which makes even more bloat) to make
    this half assed browser act like ex Opera

    and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
    for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

  • see that is the problem
    users need a forum section where devs will read stuff

    This is mainly a forum for users to help each other. Although people from Opera may come here eventually and even make comments, you should not expect it to happen.

    this is what killed opera in 1st place, ever since version "15", everything gets ignored
    why - coz nothing "goes through"

    This is not true, lots of things has changed because of people's feedback.

    and best thing yet, there is no x64 version except buggy dev builds
    for extreme resource hog (read webkit based browser), not to have x64 version is total failure

    The regular 32 bits version works fine. They can't release a 64 bits version without testing it enough to make sure it's stable enough to go to stable channel.

    If they had done that, people would be complaining about it.

  • "The regular 32 bits version works fine."

    except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

  • "The regular 32 bits version works fine."
    except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

    Can't confirm that.

  • except they eat so much RAM it goes over 32bit limit

    The RAM limit for a 32-bit process is about 4 gigabytes. Each tab, extension and add-on in Opera is its own process. Each has its own 4 gigabyte limit. If you have a single tab or extension that is trying to use over 4 GB of RAM you have a problem. I regularly top 4 GB total usage in Opera without any performance problems. It only uses about 20-100 megabytes per tab though, depending on what that tab is doing.

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