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    • rainspa
      rainspa last edited by

      ....and we have the choice of Bing as a default search again. What an extraordinary lack of choice that was.

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      • marioermando
        marioermando last edited by

        WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BETA SPEED DIAL?
        AND THE TAB TITLES LOOK PIXELATED
        WORST UPDATE EVER

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        • fadeddream
          fadeddream last edited by

          Nice. I switched to opera beta a short while back and I'm really liking it. Looks lovely and mostly a pleasure to use.

          A few minor suggestions:

          When opening the bookmarks view it'd be great if the focus went to the bookmark search box.
          I know some others aren't keen on the new style of bookmarks, but I actually really like it. The live search feature with big boxes is great.. so it's a shame i have to click on the search box each time.

          When selecting a text URL and right clicking and choosing "Go to Web Address" it'd be great if it opened in a new tab. Most other things like that seem to open in a new tab (and i think chrome and firefox do to), but opera overwrites my existing tab.

          When entering text in the location bar, is there a way to cycle through the different search engines using the keyboard?

          Is there any way to reorder the extensions/icons to the right of the location bar?

          Not sure I like having the synchronize icon there on the right of the location bar, I already have too many icons there.

          For those of us using the bookmarks bar, it'd be nice to have a "all bookmarks" button that goes to the bookmarks page.

          For bookmark management, things like "select all" and copy/paste aren't really obvious. The usual keyboard shortcuts work, but maybe there should be some buttons.

          The Recent Tabs menu item seems to only show tabs from this session, is that right? Chrome shows ones from previous sessions too.

          I'm off to test the sync.

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          • ericartman92
            ericartman92 last edited by

            Why is Opera going back and forth with the Speed Dial design!?
            I don't really care if the bar is on the bottom or on the left, but I liked it when the page dials where square - now the're back to the old design, but worse (they're either matte/bleak or low quality).

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Why is Opera going back and forth with the Speed Dial design!?

              Because they were/are doing an experiment regarding a new speed dial. And as the new start page was having some issues, they decided to disable it while they are redesigning the speed dial.

              You can (re)enable it at opera://flags/#experimental-start-page

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              • fadeddream
                fadeddream last edited by

                I prefer the original speed dial.
                I tried the new version and wasn't so keen, so I went back to the original.

                There isn't really a big difference, so I'm not clear what benefits the new (disabled) version was supposed to have.

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                • ericartman92
                  ericartman92 last edited by

                  Why is Opera going back and forth with the Speed Dial design!?

                  Because they were/are doing an experiment regarding a new speed dial. And as the new start page was having some issues, they decided to disable it while they are redesigning the speed dial.
                  You can (re)enable it at opera://flags/#experimental-start-page

                  Thanks for the info, especially about how to re-enable it.

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                  • marioermando
                    marioermando last edited by

                    The experimental start page doesn't look like the new speed dial though
                    it's still shitty af

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                    • ericartman92
                      ericartman92 last edited by

                      I did re-enable the experimental Speed Dial - but it's not at all what it was with the minimalistic design. What it did to Speed Dial was just add a useless label below each page icon, which makes it even worse than the original one. The icons now take up even more space.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        I really liked that old (disabled) minimalistic speed dial. Not this opera://flags/#experimental-start-page
                        The point is that it looks much more beautiful on non-big screens (laptops, for example).
                        If you have many bookmarks on speed dial, it is much more convenient.
                        And personally I prefer sitename over preview&title. It would be great, if we could at least choose.

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                        • threatdown
                          threatdown last edited by

                          IMO the best implementation would just be to have an option for both dial types (old style thumbnail, and new coast style text tiles). There could just be a toggle button right on the speed dial page to switch between them, similar to the button on the top right of firefox's new tab page.

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            Yes, the new design was indeed an advantage. For preview purposes it was more clearly arranged getting an excellent overview of the websites. Please may we get back the possibility to choose between old and new start page layout?
                            thx

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                            • threatdown
                              threatdown last edited by

                              I think I have a hunch on where they might be going with the new speed dial. My guess is that eventually they will more tightly integrate the speed dial with the new bookmarks manager/add bookmark button, so that you would be able to choose the thumbnail style for each dial based on the thumbnail that you choose in the add bookmark/heart menu button. This would allow for one speed dial that could make anyone happy. You can already choose the coast like text based thumbnail from the heart menu when bookmarking a page.

                              Considering that they are already working on merging the backend for bookmarks and speeddial this would make a lot of sense.

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                              • l33t4opera
                                l33t4opera last edited by admin

                                Hi @fadeddream,

                                When opening the bookmarks view it'd be great if the focus went to the bookmark search box.

                                I know, that this is not exactly what you want, but you can press the Tab key, or Ctrl+F, to focus on the box.

                                When selecting a text URL and right clicking and choosing "Go to Web Address" it'd be great if it opened in a new tab.

                                For that purpose you can try the "Open in (background) tab" extension - after you install it, go to the Options page, and untick the checkbox on the left of "Open [in current tab]", and tick the checkbox on the left of "Open in new tab", and then click on the "Save" button.

                                When entering text in the location bar, is there a way to cycle through the different search engines using the keyboard?

                                click down-arrow key, and press alt+right-arrow, or alt+left-arrow.

                                Is there any way to reorder the extensions/icons to the right of the location bar?

                                Please have a look here.

                                For those of us using the bookmarks bar, it'd be nice to have a "all bookmarks" button that goes to the bookmarks page.

                                Press Ctrl+Shift+B, and drag the "Opera" icon on the left of the address bar, and drop it onto the Bookmarks Bar 😉

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                                • treego
                                  treego last edited by

                                  l33t4opera, thanks for the very good tips here!

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                                  • Deleted User
                                    Deleted User last edited by

                                    Opera Beta's updater has a bug. It daily creates a subfolder Opera Autoupdate in my accounts Download folder. That is wrong, the folder should reside in %TEMP%!
                                    Never happened before.

                                    I installed Opera Beta as install for single user.

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                                    • l33t4opera
                                      l33t4opera last edited by

                                      New update - Opera beta 28.0.1750.21, the change log, and the announcement :cheers: \m/ ☕ 😉

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                                      • fadeddream
                                        fadeddream last edited by

                                        @l33t4opera
                                        Thanks. Many useful tips. Though I'd still recommed a few of them to be baked in rather than needing extensions/tweaking.

                                        "Press Ctrl+Shift+B, and drag the "Opera" icon on the left of the address bar, and drop it onto the Bookmarks Bar ;-)"
                                        Interesting. This also allows you to add the bookmarks to your speed dial - opera mini style.

                                        My "Recent tabs" menu doesn't show anything from before the browser was closed. Is that how it's supposed to work? In chrome it shows your previous set of tabs so you can restore them all after restarting the browser.

                                        I prefer the older speed dial with the bigger more illustrative icons (the current default). But is there a way to remove the redundant google box? Because with 3 rows of speed dial buttons on a 1440 x 900 display the bottom ones are a bit off the bottom of the screen.

                                        Re:sync. Good to see current tabs will be arriving soon. It'd be nice to have a way to exclude some folders from sync. For folders with private info such as banking. It'd also be nice to have a way of deleting your synced bookmarks without having to delete your whole opera account.

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                          My "Recent tabs" menu doesn't show anything from before the browser was closed. Is that how it's supposed to work?

                                          Afaik, yes.

                                          I prefer the older speed dial with the bigger more illustrative icons (the current default). But is there a way to remove the redundant google box?

                                          You mean the search field? You can disable it in settings after have enabled the power usermode by entering the konami code on settings page.

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                                          • Deleted User
                                            Deleted User last edited by

                                            Opera Beta's updater has a bug. It daily creates a subfolder Opera Autoupdate in my accounts Download folder.

                                            The same with current BETA 28.0.1750.21. :devil:

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