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    Let's get right down to it, Opera Devs: Where, on God's green earth, are BOOKMARKS??

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    • werewolf
      werewolf last edited by

      That sounds so complicated - and I also want a permanently open panel on the left showing all my bookmarks with all the folders and subfolders - will going through all those hoops get me that back? - just the way it always used to be - but one that I can easily add new bookmarks to, or delete old ones - and yet can easily be removed to clear up screen space and then put back again, preferably by a simple motion of the mouse rather than the keyboard - just the way it used to be. In other words what I have now with my Opera 12.17 - and Comodo Ice Dragon has it too (CID is like the real Firefox as opposed to the dumbed down Chrome-clone new model, analogous to Opera).

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      • lem729
        lem729 last edited by

        Very simple, not complicated, but it's not a permanently open panel. You have to click on the extension icon to open it. I use Firefox, as a backup, and there I have a nice side-panel extension for the old Opera look. But I've come to learn I don't crave it. The side-panel is an addiction like heroin. 😉 I went cold turkey awhile. And compared to Firefox, and Presto, the new Opera is leaner and faster. Varoooooooooom! Why, it could run circles around Secretariat.

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        • werewolf
          werewolf last edited by

          Ha ha! OK, I'm trying out the new Opera 21 now - b-b-but i have over 4,000 bookmarks!

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          • werewolf
            werewolf last edited by

            Maybe I'm getting the hang of it a little bit now...

            🙂

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            • duncanwilliams
              duncanwilliams last edited by

              Save your bookmarks to html. play with online bookmark managers and extensions. Find the one you like and in the process backup your bookmarks, tidy your bookmarks, learn more about your bookmarks, try new tools and techniques, increase your learning curve. Go on be brave and enjoy 64 bit, hardware accelerated, state-of-the-art, way fast Opera Browser for it's leaps, bounds and stuff like that.

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              • hijef
                hijef last edited by

                Why isn't this a thing yet!?!? Can you hear us devs!?

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/05/opera-desktop-23-unprefixed-css-transforms/

                  Check the "Future improvements" part.

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                  • checkmate593
                    checkmate593 last edited by

                    It seems to me that Opera V.22 has many bookmarking options. They do not emulate the Bookmark menu with which you are familiar but the functionality is still there. Between that bookmarks bar, speed dial and stash I have found there is no lack of bookmark saving options.
                    I agree with you that at first glance it seems as Opera has been left wanting but I have found that with time I am able to navigate to my favourite pages with ease.
                    I have further found that in reality there are fewer than 10 or so bookmarks that I access with any kind of regularity.

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                    • stinkeye
                      stinkeye last edited by

                      I have to import my bookmark folder to the speed dial to be able to search them from the address bar.
                      Besides gaining this search function, what's the point of cluttering the speed dial with a bookmarks
                      folder you will never browse because of the sheer size and the fact they are not organized alphabetically.

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                      • uggrak
                        uggrak last edited by

                        I really have to say my thought about this now.
                        As so many others, it seems, I have been using opera for a loooong time, since it was a paid browser.
                        I am still using 12.17, because well, its the best browser there is really. Well, with one problem, that you have to restart it every so often otherwise it hogs up way to much resources.
                        And as irritating as that can be, its not nearly as irritating as upgrading to a new version of the browser and there is NOTHING of the old left.

                        I tried Opera Next as late as today to see if it was any better, had it installed since earlier and also tried a fresh install.
                        The biggest problem ofc is Bookmarks, and NO Stash and Speed Dial are not good replacements.
                        Bookmarks bar... erhh... I dont want another bar to take place in my browser, its fine with a menu or quick access manager (F4).
                        On that note, Bookmarks bar seems to really fucking bad implemented, I cant import any bookmarks to it.
                        There is just no option where its supposed to be. Menu - More Tools - No import bookmarks.

                        I know about extensions also, the official Bookmarks Manager is just SHIT and all the rest wants to use the bookmarks bar.

                        It is REALLY bad that you would need to spend hours of time just to get a WEB BROWSER in good working condition. That is just not a good program then.

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                        • anysmarteridrunlinux
                          anysmarteridrunlinux last edited by

                          Failure is not a problem, unless it is failure to recognize failure.

                          i have used opera exclusively since Netscape on OS/2 went away. I have enjoyed Opera because they were always willing to innovate, to push the bar, and to introduce new ways of doing things. I comment Opera for trying to find a replacement system for Bookmarks. The problem is that they have failed miserably.

                          For now i keep going back to opera 12. and waiting for someone to recognize that the options provided are insufficient for some percentage of their user base. And to realize that because options are good, they can Add 'Old Fuccedup way of managing bookmarks' as an option. Make fun of me for using it while the enlightened crowd uses stash and scrolls through speed dial. I'm OK with that. Just don't tell me the emperor's clothes are nice. Be blind and stay blind. i don't care. But don't limit my options. I'm tired of O12.. but here i go again..

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                          • tomeksze
                            tomeksze last edited by

                            Open opera://flags/#bookmarks and enable it.

                            Than open chrome-extension://knohfebhibeknbfioecpdmdkjkjdnjnl/manager/bookmarks.html

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                            • shmucker
                              shmucker last edited by

                              On Opera Next and Developer editions there is also the address opera://bookmarks that will open the bookmark window.
                              And, if you bookmark a page and then click again on the star, you will have an option to look to the bookmark just created in the very same bookmark window mentioned above. But, as tomekaze says, you have first to enable them in the "Experiments" page.

                              I don't like the way they hide those settings, and it's a real mess to come up with those hidden address, as the address for opera://flags and the Experiments that they propose. I don't like the stash idea either nor the bookmark bar as the default repository for bookmark, and that cannot be changed easily or, better, intuitively.

                              So, I totally agree with the OP and the many others that complains about this Devs choice to tailors the browsing experience in a draconian way. This is not 'choice' this is an imposition that we USERS do not like. Devs, please, do something about it.

                              Anyway, the search function on opera://bookmarks is broken. I really hope that in the 'improvements' that the Devs are promising there will be a search feature proud of its name.

                              Finally, do I MUST really rely on 'extensions' to have a 'standard' browsing experience? This is ridiculous!

                              BTW, the search feature in the forum is broken too... have you noticed?

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                              • operasucksnowadaysbigtime
                                operasucksnowadaysbigtime last edited by

                                Well, I have been using Opera since Version 5, today is the day I will abandon [it]

                                Why am I posting this, while knowing nobody cares about that?

                                Because [] devs at opera thought it would be a good idea to not let me export my bookmarks to a format which is readable by firefox.

                                Are you for real? No export button for the stash?

                                My stash file is a mere 150 MB and now I am supposed to fiddle with a sqlite manager? (Which I already did, but still can't import the stash data into firefox,because the exported format ALSO sucks)

                                []

                                Seriously, the people who decided to rape opera like this should be fired and banned from software development forever..what a crying shame.

                                Just abandon opera, they deserve it, it's dead, some clueless suits killed it.

                                Ok, that's it. I will be busy the next few days, manually importing the urls from the stash into firefox....thx again opera devs, well done.

                                tl;dr: Opera sucks big time, doesn't let you export the stash data, preventing you from switching to another browser.

                                [mod edits: Watch your tone!]

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                                • christoph142
                                  christoph142 last edited by

                                  You know, there are important things like reimplementing bookmarks, sync and downloads functionality and then there are some features like exporting stuff.
                                  Have fun using FF. Bye.

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                                  • operasucksnowadaysbigtime
                                    operasucksnowadaysbigtime last edited by

                                    "some features like exporting stuff"

                                    That's what I'm talking about 🙂 Have fun moderating a forum for a broken piece of code. Bye.

                                    So, just for clarification: I can't export my stash data right now, because it's not that important?

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                                    • operasucksnowadaysbigtime
                                      operasucksnowadaysbigtime last edited by

                                      sound of crickets

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                                      • linuxmint7
                                        linuxmint7 last edited by

                                        L.B.W ?.

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                                        • christoph142
                                          christoph142 last edited by

                                          So, just for clarification: I can't export my stash data right now, because it's not that important?
                                          Spot on.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Opera sucks big time, doesn't let you export the stash data, preventing you from switching to another browser.
                                            Perhaps ask Mozilla to implement a Stash importer. The stash.db database can be easily read. How about that? 🙂

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