Vertical Tabs
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mattbizio last edited by
@Reitei17 yeah! Really the only reason why I dont set Opera as my Prefered browser is just because of Vertical Tabs. And I am so happy that I´m not the only one who stands for it right now, We don´t care about absurd games or wallpaper colors in Opera Gx... Precious time and money are wasted in the one killer feature we as users desperately want.
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scrapefour last edited by
@mattbizio 100% agree. Edge quickly went to the top of my list for browsers. It's so productivity focused and it keeps getting better with each update.
I switched off opera for edge but once I saw opera air I was sure it would be the browser that brings me back but the lack of vertical tabs and organization and the blinding flashbang effect everytime I use it makes it hard to switch too
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@scrapefour Right, and why exactly vertical tabs are better than the regular horizontal ones?
Those browsers have implemented vertical tabs because they felt that people were needing it? Or they just created a needing that (almost) no one had before?
I'm not against vertical tabs, I probably would use them, but I'm not sure if vertical tabs are something so urgent.
By the way, I don't see vertical tabs on Chrome here.
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scrapefour last edited by scrapefour
@leocg the need for vertical tabs is there. I don't think it's a fair statement to say that every mainstream browser in the market today implemented this useless feature. There is a very clear need for it. To say that "well it wasn't popular 20 years ago" completely ignores the changing landscape of technology and how fast needs arise.
Opera air is supposed to be a productivity browser designed to help focus. Vertical tabs help tremendously with the workflow. Being able to in a list form every tab I have open and jump too it is massive. Also being able to group tabs by like content is also a game changer.
Here's a great example. Why do we write lists vertically and not horizontally? Tabs are nothing more than a list of all the open items. Sure if you not doing much then a horizontal list works but once you have more than a few things it makes sense to list it out vertically.
I even see this in my org. I'm an admin and manage thousands of users. Browsers settings are completely open for end users customize as they please. Most users have either moved to edge or chrome and use vertical tabs.
Also I've seen people using vertical tabs on chrome not sure if it's an extension or built in as I'm not a chrome user. Edge and opera for me but mostly edge since opera lacks these features
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@scrapefour said:
Here's a great example. Why do we write lists vertically and not horizontally?
Because we learned to write on notebooks, where the vertical space is bigger than the horizontal one?
Tabs are nothing more than a list of all the open items. Sure if you not doing much then a horizontal list works but once you have more than a few things it makes sense to list it out vertically.
If you have several several tabs opened, wouldn't you end up with the same space issue no matter if you have them listed vertically or horizontally?
And having a large amount of opened tabs is really necessary? So for I didn't see nothing that could convince me.
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scrapefour last edited by scrapefour
@leocg We were not forced to write lists vertically because of notebooks. It was more of common-sense thing that lists are better organized by line.
Here is sample of vertical tabs. Much cleaner and better than horizontal and it saves space because the menu collapses. The horizontal tabs are extremely messy and not really good for a workflow. There is a reason that opera is the only mainstream browser in existence today that lacks this feature. 99% of the market saw a need for this and adapted. I really hope that opera does the same. To label a product as a "productivity browser" but lack the most basic productivity features is misleading. Its like buying a car without tires. Like most of here have expressed we will likely continue to use other products until opera catches up to everyone else.
I'm not sure if the opera team monitors reddit at all but not having this feature is one of the top reasons why people are leaving opera as well. Even in the forums I found threads going back as far as 2014 asking for this feature.
Yes, having a large number of tabs is necessary. For my work everything I do is web based and as a sysadmin im in no less than 30 + different portals per day. I couldn't imagine having to close out of the tab every time I completed an action then having to reopen and sign back in with 2fa every time I needed to complete something.
https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1itdjxt/whats_the_hype_around_vertical_tabs/
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mattbizio last edited by
@leocg If you're not convinced by the advantages of advanced tab management, perhaps Opera isn't the right browser for you. Some users may only need three or four tabs for daily tasks, and that’s perfectly fine ( but that´s the exeption rather than the rule and the stats are just proving this ). Chrome’s community might celebrate a slower pace of adaptation, but for professionals involved in serious content creation, research, AI development—even musicians then robust tab organization is a no brainer.
the problem is that you´re not treating tabs like things to do... when you write a list of groceries for example you write it down vertically for the only purpose of visual priority ( can´t imagine a single case of someone writing groceries list just horizontaly, it´s called "common sense" )
As a designer and multimedia creator, managing 20+ tabs is a daily necessity when tracking trends and accessing online AI tools. We need a system that isn't just functional but genuinely powerful and why not beautiful like the rest of opera´s UI. Dismissing progress as unnecessary only reflects a childlish argue and a missed opportunity to engage broader audiences (something that opera really needs if it wants to stay relevant on the future ). If users begin migrating to Opera, they’ll uncover valuable built-in features, such as pinboards, Aria, the usefull sidebar and other productivity tools. The real challenge is making this innovation accessible and compelling to ensure it reaches its full potential.
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mattbizio last edited by leocg
In any case you can make both vertical and horizontal options( again like EDGE does ) and that´s it... every user satisfied!
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@mattbizio What I'm not convinced is that people needs to have several tabs opened all the time.
I know and agree that tabs management is important.
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Reitei17 last edited by Reitei17
@leocg for me personally its only for ui aesthetic that i prefer. I like having vertical tabs cause its look prettier. Less stuff on upper part (horizontal tabs). Especially when the vertical tabs can auto hide. Its very neat. Also im easily bored. So a change will be nice.
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scrapefour last edited by
@leocg So for work or just daily use you only use a single tab at a time? When your done you just close the tab and re sign in everytime?
For my use case I'm a sysadmin so it's not uncommon to have 20 - 30 portals open and going in and out of. Rmm tools, network management, inventory systems, device management systems and list goes on. As an admin I work on requests as they come in so I never know what portal I'll need till I physically get the request. All these are 2fa as well. Once you close the tab you have to 2fa back in. I couldn't imagine having to sign back in 100+ times a day using my password and 2fa code whereas I could just leave the tab open and refer back to it when needed.
