@leocg So for work or just daily use you only use a single tab at a time? When your done you just close the tab and re sign in everytime?

For my use case I'm a sysadmin so it's not uncommon to have 20 - 30 portals open and going in and out of. Rmm tools, network management, inventory systems, device management systems and list goes on. As an admin I work on requests as they come in so I never know what portal I'll need till I physically get the request. All these are 2fa as well. Once you close the tab you have to 2fa back in. I couldn't imagine having to sign back in 100+ times a day using my password and 2fa code whereas I could just leave the tab open and refer back to it when needed.

@leocg We were not forced to write lists vertically because of notebooks. It was more of common-sense thing that lists are better organized by line.

Here is sample of vertical tabs. Much cleaner and better than horizontal and it saves space because the menu collapses. The horizontal tabs are extremely messy and not really good for a workflow. There is a reason that opera is the only mainstream browser in existence today that lacks this feature. 99% of the market saw a need for this and adapted. I really hope that opera does the same. To label a product as a "productivity browser" but lack the most basic productivity features is misleading. Its like buying a car without tires. Like most of here have expressed we will likely continue to use other products until opera catches up to everyone else.

I'm not sure if the opera team monitors reddit at all but not having this feature is one of the top reasons why people are leaving opera as well. Even in the forums I found threads going back as far as 2014 asking for this feature.

Yes, having a large number of tabs is necessary. For my work everything I do is web based and as a sysadmin im in no less than 30 + different portals per day. I couldn't imagine having to close out of the tab every time I completed an action then having to reopen and sign back in with 2fa every time I needed to complete something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1itdjxt/whats_the_hype_around_vertical_tabs/

@leocg the need for vertical tabs is there. I don't think it's a fair statement to say that every mainstream browser in the market today implemented this useless feature. There is a very clear need for it. To say that "well it wasn't popular 20 years ago" completely ignores the changing landscape of technology and how fast needs arise.

Opera air is supposed to be a productivity browser designed to help focus. Vertical tabs help tremendously with the workflow. Being able to in a list form every tab I have open and jump too it is massive. Also being able to group tabs by like content is also a game changer.

Here's a great example. Why do we write lists vertically and not horizontally? Tabs are nothing more than a list of all the open items. Sure if you not doing much then a horizontal list works but once you have more than a few things it makes sense to list it out vertically.

I even see this in my org. I'm an admin and manage thousands of users. Browsers settings are completely open for end users customize as they please. Most users have either moved to edge or chrome and use vertical tabs.

Also I've seen people using vertical tabs on chrome not sure if it's an extension or built in as I'm not a chrome user. Edge and opera for me but mostly edge since opera lacks these features

@mattbizio 100% agree. Edge quickly went to the top of my list for browsers. It's so productivity focused and it keeps getting better with each update.

I switched off opera for edge but once I saw opera air I was sure it would be the browser that brings me back but the lack of vertical tabs and organization and the blinding flashbang effect everytime I use it makes it hard to switch too

@leocg what this fails to take into account is that 20 years ago web applications were not a thing. Most users today have next to no software installed anymore. 30+ tabs in todays world is extremely common. Necessity drives innovation. We have reached a point where we need ways to organize. Brave, edge, zen, chrome, Firefox all have this.

@Mlipka Just chiming in here as well. I would like to see vertical tabs as well. This is the main reason why I use edge. When using 20 - 30+ tabs especially for work, it makes tab management that much better also. Self organizing tabs would be very nice too. Edge has the feature where you can hit organize tabs and it creates subsections in the list. I do not use work spaces because I prefer a clear list of all my tabs.

@leocg Appears that the GPU process and browser itself are roughly 1gb. Boosts and takes a break features are 500mb and everything else like zen media, aria, background workers etc are around 50 - 70mb each.

Seems like the browser is just going to be very heavy on resource usage. Hope to see improvements in the future. Will keep checking back when updates occur

@leocg Task Manager does not show what processes are running on opera just that it is opera air. The high ram usage looks like its also affecting the take a break and Boosts features. When using opera air. Enabling any of mindful features causes stuttering scrolling and loading issues.

Since I work remotely and pretty much everything I do is web based, Opera Air just cannot handle the tabs and workload. Its just too RAM intensive.

Will have to switch back to edge for the time being till this is fixed. Ashamed because the take a break and boosts features were nice for work.

@leocg The only thing thats concerning is this is a fresh install with only 2 extensions opened. it should not have that many running processes? Is that the background mindfulness stuff running?

When I expand and look at the processes they are all just labeled opera air

@leocg Are you sure for opera air? On normal opera its not that high. No tabs open using close to 2gb of ram is alot.

Why is opera air so inefficient compared standard opera, opera gx and edge?