Vertical Tabs
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mattbizio last edited by
@Th3Winchester yeah definetely!. Opera has everything and more to join the vertical tab browser´s team.
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Reitei17 last edited by
@Mlipka hi.. i like vertical tabs because it can minimal the space on top. and make it neater if i could have a show tabs when hover.
For the vertical tabs can be show to hover or show a small icons of the tabs when not hover, and then snap into a longer description tabs when hover for 0.5sec. i think the best vertical tabs i can say for now is the one edge have.
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obahareth last edited by
@Mlipka I personally like how Arc did vertical tabs as a kind of bookmarks.
I have a lot of nested folders in my vertical tabs to easily switch between different roles I play (business owner, cto, accountant, developer, gamer, researcher, etc.)
With horizontal tabs I just get a big pile of favicons and I can't tell which is which. With vertical tabs the tab titles are still visible and I can still scroll through them legibly.
I would love to have vertical tabs in all versions of Opera, not just Air.
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scrapefour last edited by
@Mlipka Just chiming in here as well. I would like to see vertical tabs as well. This is the main reason why I use edge. When using 20 - 30+ tabs especially for work, it makes tab management that much better also. Self organizing tabs would be very nice too. Edge has the feature where you can hit organize tabs and it creates subsections in the list. I do not use work spaces because I prefer a clear list of all my tabs.
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mattbizio last edited by
@scrapefour Exactly! Edge has taken tab organization to a whole new level, setting a benchmark for intuitive browsing. It's surprising that Opera hasn't implemented this feature yet, especially considering its reputation for innovation in areas like built-in VPNs and sidebar tools. Advanced tab management greatly enhances workflow efficiency, making it easier to navigate multiple open pages without clutter. Perhaps Opera will adopt similar functionality in future updates to stay competitive in the evolving browser landscape.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@mattbizio Opera created vertical tabs about 15, 20 years ago.
Maybe they don't see that much demand for the feature, to justify reimplementing it?
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mattbizio last edited by mattbizio
@leocg if that were the case then why Edge implements it as a constant feature in every update?. Edge has a bigger market share compared to Opera. Internet explorer was no rival 15, 20 years ago. Maybe that´s the only reason why users prefers Edge than Opera, just read the comments above this one
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@mattbizio Don't know, maybe there was demand for it among Edge users
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scrapefour last edited by
@leocg what this fails to take into account is that 20 years ago web applications were not a thing. Most users today have next to no software installed anymore. 30+ tabs in todays world is extremely common. Necessity drives innovation. We have reached a point where we need ways to organize. Brave, edge, zen, chrome, Firefox all have this.
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mattbizio last edited by
@Reitei17 yeah! Really the only reason why I dont set Opera as my Prefered browser is just because of Vertical Tabs. And I am so happy that I´m not the only one who stands for it right now, We don´t care about absurd games or wallpaper colors in Opera Gx... Precious time and money are wasted in the one killer feature we as users desperately want.
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scrapefour last edited by
@mattbizio 100% agree. Edge quickly went to the top of my list for browsers. It's so productivity focused and it keeps getting better with each update.
I switched off opera for edge but once I saw opera air I was sure it would be the browser that brings me back but the lack of vertical tabs and organization and the blinding flashbang effect everytime I use it makes it hard to switch too
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@scrapefour Right, and why exactly vertical tabs are better than the regular horizontal ones?
Those browsers have implemented vertical tabs because they felt that people were needing it? Or they just created a needing that (almost) no one had before?
I'm not against vertical tabs, I probably would use them, but I'm not sure if vertical tabs are something so urgent.
By the way, I don't see vertical tabs on Chrome here.
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scrapefour last edited by scrapefour
@leocg the need for vertical tabs is there. I don't think it's a fair statement to say that every mainstream browser in the market today implemented this useless feature. There is a very clear need for it. To say that "well it wasn't popular 20 years ago" completely ignores the changing landscape of technology and how fast needs arise.
Opera air is supposed to be a productivity browser designed to help focus. Vertical tabs help tremendously with the workflow. Being able to in a list form every tab I have open and jump too it is massive. Also being able to group tabs by like content is also a game changer.
Here's a great example. Why do we write lists vertically and not horizontally? Tabs are nothing more than a list of all the open items. Sure if you not doing much then a horizontal list works but once you have more than a few things it makes sense to list it out vertically.
I even see this in my org. I'm an admin and manage thousands of users. Browsers settings are completely open for end users customize as they please. Most users have either moved to edge or chrome and use vertical tabs.
Also I've seen people using vertical tabs on chrome not sure if it's an extension or built in as I'm not a chrome user. Edge and opera for me but mostly edge since opera lacks these features
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@scrapefour said:
Here's a great example. Why do we write lists vertically and not horizontally?
Because we learned to write on notebooks, where the vertical space is bigger than the horizontal one?
Tabs are nothing more than a list of all the open items. Sure if you not doing much then a horizontal list works but once you have more than a few things it makes sense to list it out vertically.
If you have several several tabs opened, wouldn't you end up with the same space issue no matter if you have them listed vertically or horizontally?
And having a large amount of opened tabs is really necessary? So for I didn't see nothing that could convince me.
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scrapefour last edited by scrapefour
@leocg We were not forced to write lists vertically because of notebooks. It was more of common-sense thing that lists are better organized by line.
Here is sample of vertical tabs. Much cleaner and better than horizontal and it saves space because the menu collapses. The horizontal tabs are extremely messy and not really good for a workflow. There is a reason that opera is the only mainstream browser in existence today that lacks this feature. 99% of the market saw a need for this and adapted. I really hope that opera does the same. To label a product as a "productivity browser" but lack the most basic productivity features is misleading. Its like buying a car without tires. Like most of here have expressed we will likely continue to use other products until opera catches up to everyone else.
I'm not sure if the opera team monitors reddit at all but not having this feature is one of the top reasons why people are leaving opera as well. Even in the forums I found threads going back as far as 2014 asking for this feature.
Yes, having a large number of tabs is necessary. For my work everything I do is web based and as a sysadmin im in no less than 30 + different portals per day. I couldn't imagine having to close out of the tab every time I completed an action then having to reopen and sign back in with 2fa every time I needed to complete something.
https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1itdjxt/whats_the_hype_around_vertical_tabs/
