Good alternatives to Opera 12.16?
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funksoulbro last edited by
Sorry, I forgot to add a "no fanboys please" disclaimer on my first post. I'm perfectly aware of the features (or lack of!) of Chropera, so there's no need to act like some unpaid salesman for a browser that is nowhere near ready for prime time.
From your own review of Opera on Cnet: -
"Finally there's more space for "quick startup" folders and icons than any other browser --toolbars at the top, status bar at the bottom, panel on the side. Wow!"
Wow indeed. Shame all the stuff you loved is gone, leaving a bare shell of a browser, but much like the other handful of annoying fanboy fools on here, you're another hypocrite. Every one of those people said that they loved Opera because of it's features and customisability - some of them even talked about how Presto was so much better than Chrome's engine - yet as soon as Opera switched from Presto to the same engine as Chrome and removed all those features they loved, they did a complete u-turn. Laughable.
Anyone non-fanboys care to comment?
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lem729 last edited by
I repeat, it's really dispIcable and sordid for you to attempt to hijack the Opera forum, and to poison its use for everyone. Is this the type of person you are in life in general, very angry and nasty. Angry and nasty, funksoulbro. Who hurt you? Why have you never grown up?
This is a thread that the moderators ought to close.
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funksoulbro last edited by
Hyperbole from a delusional fanboy.
All I asked is for another browser that has the same functions as Opera 12.16. If that gets you riled up to the point where you immediately turned into an unpaid Opera cheerleader, claiming I'm "despicable" and "sordid" and trying to "poison" people, then I suggest you seek some professional counselling or perhaps see a psychologist.
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colderwinters last edited by
Can anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful, obviously, and development of it is progressing so slow that there's no point waiting any longer for new features to be added, so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!I dont really want to poison the room by posting other browsers, but since I havent given up on Opera and still have it installed as one of my many secondary browsers (just waiting for the improvements that would qualify it as my main default browser) I'll post these links as for what works for me FunkSoulBro, every bit as good as 12.16 as far as I'm concerned, everyone has a right to use another browser till the improvements get made on this one
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alreadybanned last edited by
Can anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful, obviously, and development of it is progressing so slow that there's no point waiting any longer for new features to be added, so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!With most of the browsers out there being nothing more than a chrome clone, our options are slim. I have tried many and my search has landed me with Firefox too. With quite a few extensions and some scripts I've gotten to near (Presto)Opera usability.
The extensions I use are:
Adblock Edge
Add Bookmark Here 2
Auto-Sort Bookmarks
Clone Tab
Context Search
Download Manager Tweak
Grease Monkey
New Tab Homepage
Personal Menu
Stylish
Tile Tabs
Undo Closed Tabs Buttona few others and some scripts. There is a session manager that works just as Opera's did that has an undo button that can be placed on the address bar as well. Also, SimpleMail gives a built in mail client that can be a pinned tab (which is how I used it in Opera) but I found it a little too buggy for my liking.
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blackbird71 last edited byCan anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful..., so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!Actually, if it were as simple as just switching to another flavor of browser to recapture the functionality of Presto Opera, most complaint posts in the Opera forums wouldn't have ever appeared - users would simply have switched and would be gone. But obviously, Presto Opera was unique in many, many ways. One can recreate some of its functionality using other browsers, but nothing exists (yet) that can match it. I've been able to get the most critical Old Opera functionality and GUI layout that I need via Firefox and ~9 extensions... but, of course, what I deem "critical" won't match many other users' demands.
The fact remains that Presto Opera is increasingly "history", as its age is showing more and more. Users who need its features must now either seek other browsers (and accessories) that best match their needs or patiently wait to see what might be forthcoming with New Opera or the various other new-ish browsers being developed (like Otter, etc). There certainly are no reasons most users can't install several browsers and try them out, especially as time goes by and the designs evolve.
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alreadybanned last edited by
Can anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful, obviously, and development of it is progressing so slow that there's no point waiting any longer for new features to be added, so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!I dont really want to poison the room by posting other browsers, but since I havent given up on Opera and still have it installed as one of my many secondary browsers (just waiting for the improvements that would qualify it as my main default browser) I'll post these links as for what works for me FunkSoulBro, every bit as good as 12.16 as far as I'm concerned, everyone has a right to use another browser till the improvements get made on this one
http://s67.photobucket.com/user/ColdWinter61/media/IceDragon3Screenshot_zps47d167ce.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s67.photobucket.com/user/ColdWinter61/media/IceDragon3Screenshot_zps47d167ce.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1That's a Gecko based browser, I preferred PaleMoon over that one. There is also a x64 version called CyberFox
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40yearoldnerd last edited by
I recommend Chrome. Or...FirefoxNightly. Not plain Firefox, but the Nightly or Aurora versions.
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alreadybanned last edited by
I recommend Chrome. Or...FirefoxNightly. Not plain Firefox, but the Nightly or Aurora versions.
It's worth mentioning that the nightly build has their more chrome like, streamlined interface, Australis. They also have silent updates just like Vanilla Firfox unless you are using a portable version and there isn't one(that I know of) for the suggested builds.
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2013/11/australis-is-landing-in-firefox-nightly/
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Deleted User last edited by
Funksoulbro knows very well that other browsers do not have the feature set of Opera Presto. He's simply being very disingenuous with this rather useless thread. I completely agree with lem... moderators, consider locking this useless thread. It has no merit and will only serve as flame bait. What does he really expect? Come on... there are only so many browsers out there and is he telling us that he's incapable of choosing one but instead needs our help? This is little more than a poorly disguised set-up. LOL
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stng last edited by admin
There is no full-fledged replacement for the "classic" Opera 12! Today, Mozilla Firefox with big extensions pack(few dozens) is the closest alternative to Opera/Presto but FF not even not comes close in terms of interface/controllability/productivity. Some of Opera's unique feature can't be restored with extensions.
Mozilla's UI is awful when it's compared with Opera. I am disappointed about how a Mozilla-based browsers had no any appreciable progress in this area after a years of their evolution.If you're really interested, read: https://forums.opera.com/topic/82/here-are-some-suggestions-for-those-looking-for-alternatives-to-opera-12-and-use-opera-mail
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grierzo last edited by
That last link is helpful but everyone is different and there are other options. For me, I haven't found anything to replicate the email side of 12.15, but for browsing I second the nomination for the latest version of Maxthon Coud which out of the box has an Opera Link equivalent, RSS reader, bookmarks manager, notes, sidebar for quick access to these, option to use 2 different engines, separate search box and customizable search options (yay!), mouse gestures, download manager, reader mode and an excellent source sniffer for downloading videos etc. The sidebar looks a bit clunky, but it can even be detached and pinned to your desktop which is a nice trick although I don't use it. They also maintain several older versions! The main negative so far is that the Mac version doesn't seem to have these features, it seems the development path has been different.
Of the other Chrome clones, I like Comodo Dragon for speed, appearance and security. It can be set up to use Comodo's DNS servers.
Having said all that, when Opera 15 came out I despaired, but I find Opera 20 is usable, fast and stable. I don't love it, but it's getting better.
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colderwinters last edited by
Can anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful, obviously, and development of it is progressing so slow that there's no point waiting any longer for new features to be added, so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!Have you decided yet ? it was easy for me.
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salonpas23 last edited by
[Please don't post the same comment all over the forums and also don't hijack non related topics. ]
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funksoulbro last edited by
"This is little more than a poorly disguised set-up. LOL"
Paranoid. Delusional. Did you not read my "no fanboys" post above? You're another one that needs some help, as you let people's opinions of a web browser get you INCREDIBLY angry, which is just ridiculous.
I posted this thread because there are lots of browsers out there outside the main handful that everyone knows, and maybe there is an option I've not considered that's great. It would save me a lot of time compared to trying every browser in existence in turn, trying out various extensions/add-ons etc.
[Mod edit. Please don't post the same comment all over the forums. Persecution and personal attacks will not be accepted per the forum rules so please stop.]
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alreadybanned last edited by
"This is little more than a poorly disguised set-up. LOL"
Paranoid. Delusional. Did you not read my "no fanboys" post above? You're another one that needs some help, as you let people's opinions of a web browser get you INCREDIBLY angry, which is just ridiculous.
I posted this thread because there are lots of browsers out there outside the main handful that everyone knows, and maybe there is an option I've not considered that's great. It would save me a lot of time compared to trying every browser in existence in turn, trying out various extensions/add-ons etc.I took the Firefox Nightly for a test drive and it is horrid. With the new layout you are unable to move certain buttons around on the address bar. The menu(as you can see in the link I provided earlier) is clearly designed for finger painting.
Palemoon doesn't have silent updates and is against the new UI so it is based off of v24-ESR branch. I guess I'll be moving over to that if the one I'm using(v28) starts to perform poorly
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blackbird71 last edited by
... I took the Firefox Nightly for a test drive and it is horrid. With the new layout you are unable to move certain buttons around on the address bar. The menu(as you can see in the link I provided earlier) is clearly designed for finger painting.
Palemoon doesn't have silent updates and is against the new UI so it is based off of v24-ESR branch. I guess I'll be moving over to that if the one I'm using(v28) starts to perform poorlyAnother good reason to use browser designs that allow one to block auto-updating! Eventually, that FF nightly build will progress into a released version, and auto-updated users will be stuck with that sort of nonsense whether they want it or not. At least my current FF (28) allows me to easily block updates, so I can and do control what gets pushed my way and when. Unfortunately, with New Opera, users have to resort to hacks to block auto-updating... and I foresee major user discontent arising somewhere down the way, either because users seriously don't like the pushed changes or because the update crashes some systems. I've yet to meet a piece of software that hasn't crashed at some time because of a messed up update... and it's why I block all auto-updating on my systems, opting for notification and manual updating instead. I routinely wait a week or two, and first test the waters in which auto-updated users are swimming... it's saved me from numerous erratic update issues.
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nightmaresoul last edited by
Well I am a Opera fanboy, but I agree with you Funksoulbro. So Far the only browser I have found that works comparably to Opera 12.16 is Opera 12.16. If you find any others that are as good and are seeing a consistent stream of work being put to them, please come back and inform me.
