Good alternatives to Opera 12.16?
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blackbird71 last edited byCan anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful..., so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!Actually, if it were as simple as just switching to another flavor of browser to recapture the functionality of Presto Opera, most complaint posts in the Opera forums wouldn't have ever appeared - users would simply have switched and would be gone. But obviously, Presto Opera was unique in many, many ways. One can recreate some of its functionality using other browsers, but nothing exists (yet) that can match it. I've been able to get the most critical Old Opera functionality and GUI layout that I need via Firefox and ~9 extensions... but, of course, what I deem "critical" won't match many other users' demands.
The fact remains that Presto Opera is increasingly "history", as its age is showing more and more. Users who need its features must now either seek other browsers (and accessories) that best match their needs or patiently wait to see what might be forthcoming with New Opera or the various other new-ish browsers being developed (like Otter, etc). There certainly are no reasons most users can't install several browsers and try them out, especially as time goes by and the designs evolve.
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alreadybanned last edited by
Can anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful, obviously, and development of it is progressing so slow that there's no point waiting any longer for new features to be added, so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!I dont really want to poison the room by posting other browsers, but since I havent given up on Opera and still have it installed as one of my many secondary browsers (just waiting for the improvements that would qualify it as my main default browser) I'll post these links as for what works for me FunkSoulBro, every bit as good as 12.16 as far as I'm concerned, everyone has a right to use another browser till the improvements get made on this one
http://s67.photobucket.com/user/ColdWinter61/media/IceDragon3Screenshot_zps47d167ce.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s67.photobucket.com/user/ColdWinter61/media/IceDragon3Screenshot_zps47d167ce.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1That's a Gecko based browser, I preferred PaleMoon over that one. There is also a x64 version called CyberFox
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40yearoldnerd last edited by
I recommend Chrome. Or...FirefoxNightly. Not plain Firefox, but the Nightly or Aurora versions.
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alreadybanned last edited by
I recommend Chrome. Or...FirefoxNightly. Not plain Firefox, but the Nightly or Aurora versions.
It's worth mentioning that the nightly build has their more chrome like, streamlined interface, Australis. They also have silent updates just like Vanilla Firfox unless you are using a portable version and there isn't one(that I know of) for the suggested builds.
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2013/11/australis-is-landing-in-firefox-nightly/
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Deleted User last edited by
Funksoulbro knows very well that other browsers do not have the feature set of Opera Presto. He's simply being very disingenuous with this rather useless thread. I completely agree with lem... moderators, consider locking this useless thread. It has no merit and will only serve as flame bait. What does he really expect? Come on... there are only so many browsers out there and is he telling us that he's incapable of choosing one but instead needs our help? This is little more than a poorly disguised set-up. LOL
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stng last edited by admin
There is no full-fledged replacement for the "classic" Opera 12! Today, Mozilla Firefox with big extensions pack(few dozens) is the closest alternative to Opera/Presto but FF not even not comes close in terms of interface/controllability/productivity. Some of Opera's unique feature can't be restored with extensions.
Mozilla's UI is awful when it's compared with Opera. I am disappointed about how a Mozilla-based browsers had no any appreciable progress in this area after a years of their evolution.If you're really interested, read: https://forums.opera.com/topic/82/here-are-some-suggestions-for-those-looking-for-alternatives-to-opera-12-and-use-opera-mail
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grierzo last edited by
That last link is helpful but everyone is different and there are other options. For me, I haven't found anything to replicate the email side of 12.15, but for browsing I second the nomination for the latest version of Maxthon Coud which out of the box has an Opera Link equivalent, RSS reader, bookmarks manager, notes, sidebar for quick access to these, option to use 2 different engines, separate search box and customizable search options (yay!), mouse gestures, download manager, reader mode and an excellent source sniffer for downloading videos etc. The sidebar looks a bit clunky, but it can even be detached and pinned to your desktop which is a nice trick although I don't use it. They also maintain several older versions! The main negative so far is that the Mac version doesn't seem to have these features, it seems the development path has been different.
Of the other Chrome clones, I like Comodo Dragon for speed, appearance and security. It can be set up to use Comodo's DNS servers.
Having said all that, when Opera 15 came out I despaired, but I find Opera 20 is usable, fast and stable. I don't love it, but it's getting better.
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colderwinters last edited by
Can anyone recommend anything? The new Opera is awful, obviously, and development of it is progressing so slow that there's no point waiting any longer for new features to be added, so I'm looking around for something to replace it permanently. I've tried Firefox with some extensions which is OK, but I'm wondering if there's other options out there that have the features/customisability of 12.16 but are still actively being developed.
Thanks!Have you decided yet ? it was easy for me.
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salonpas23 last edited by
[Please don't post the same comment all over the forums and also don't hijack non related topics. ]
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funksoulbro last edited by
"This is little more than a poorly disguised set-up. LOL"
Paranoid. Delusional. Did you not read my "no fanboys" post above? You're another one that needs some help, as you let people's opinions of a web browser get you INCREDIBLY angry, which is just ridiculous.
I posted this thread because there are lots of browsers out there outside the main handful that everyone knows, and maybe there is an option I've not considered that's great. It would save me a lot of time compared to trying every browser in existence in turn, trying out various extensions/add-ons etc.
[Mod edit. Please don't post the same comment all over the forums. Persecution and personal attacks will not be accepted per the forum rules so please stop.]
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alreadybanned last edited by
"This is little more than a poorly disguised set-up. LOL"
Paranoid. Delusional. Did you not read my "no fanboys" post above? You're another one that needs some help, as you let people's opinions of a web browser get you INCREDIBLY angry, which is just ridiculous.
I posted this thread because there are lots of browsers out there outside the main handful that everyone knows, and maybe there is an option I've not considered that's great. It would save me a lot of time compared to trying every browser in existence in turn, trying out various extensions/add-ons etc.I took the Firefox Nightly for a test drive and it is horrid. With the new layout you are unable to move certain buttons around on the address bar. The menu(as you can see in the link I provided earlier) is clearly designed for finger painting.
Palemoon doesn't have silent updates and is against the new UI so it is based off of v24-ESR branch. I guess I'll be moving over to that if the one I'm using(v28) starts to perform poorly
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blackbird71 last edited by
... I took the Firefox Nightly for a test drive and it is horrid. With the new layout you are unable to move certain buttons around on the address bar. The menu(as you can see in the link I provided earlier) is clearly designed for finger painting.
Palemoon doesn't have silent updates and is against the new UI so it is based off of v24-ESR branch. I guess I'll be moving over to that if the one I'm using(v28) starts to perform poorlyAnother good reason to use browser designs that allow one to block auto-updating! Eventually, that FF nightly build will progress into a released version, and auto-updated users will be stuck with that sort of nonsense whether they want it or not. At least my current FF (28) allows me to easily block updates, so I can and do control what gets pushed my way and when. Unfortunately, with New Opera, users have to resort to hacks to block auto-updating... and I foresee major user discontent arising somewhere down the way, either because users seriously don't like the pushed changes or because the update crashes some systems. I've yet to meet a piece of software that hasn't crashed at some time because of a messed up update... and it's why I block all auto-updating on my systems, opting for notification and manual updating instead. I routinely wait a week or two, and first test the waters in which auto-updated users are swimming... it's saved me from numerous erratic update issues.
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nightmaresoul last edited by
Well I am a Opera fanboy, but I agree with you Funksoulbro. So Far the only browser I have found that works comparably to Opera 12.16 is Opera 12.16. If you find any others that are as good and are seeing a consistent stream of work being put to them, please come back and inform me.
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Deleted User last edited by
Enjoy your increasing incompatibility and eventually insecurity. It's all coming to an end and the Titanic, in spite of loyalty, is going to sink.
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colderwinters last edited by
FunkSoulBro, I gave you good advice on what browser to use, the older Opera used to be my main default browser, if what I suggested works for me, it should work for you, Are you saying you cant surf the net unless it's with that old obsolete version of opera ? If that old obsolete irrelevent opera is the only thing people can use to surf the net, then god help us all.
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jito463 last edited by
While it's not as good as Opera 12.x, I did find some features I liked in Sleipnir. However, I didn't care much for the tab bar system in v5, so I'd suggest using v4 instead. Just my personal observation. Then again, I didn't utilize it much for day-to-day browsing, more for some specific tasks. It's also based on Chromium, so it shares many features with ChrOpera, but with a bit more functionality. In the end, though, I just couldn't bring myself to use it as a replacement, for much the same reason I can't bring myself to use the post-Presto Opera. Still, you may find it more accommodating than I did.
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funksoulbro last edited by
"It's all coming to an end and the Titanic, in spite of loyalty, is going to sink."
I wasn't talking about the new version of the browser, which is clearly due to be discontinued soon. I was talking about alternatives to the old browser - you know, the good one.
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lem729 last edited by
What happens happens! Opera Next is fun to use. Opera 12 was also. They have different pluses and minuses. I make no pretense of being able to predict anything. I only know what I like. And I do still enjoy Opera. I have the New Opera (Opera 20) and the Old (Opera 12) on my desktop. I made the switch because I now enjoy using the new one more. But I respect Opera 12 enormously -- and many of the versions that came before it. Think that Opera was and is still (old Browser and new) a delight.
