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    Tab Islands, Tabs and Workspaces
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    • cirenjules
      cirenjules @mushin last edited by

      @mushin Yes the same happened to me! What a pain :-(. I just added them back in as/when/if I needed the Tab previously associated with a specific Workspace

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      • cirenjules
        cirenjules @MarqM last edited by

        @marqm I agree. Whoever did the Useability specification for Tab Islands? Whilst hovering over the Island shows the Tabs within it - and with a bit of luck you can select one without opening the Island itself - it's really not a great experience. What's essential is the ability to simply Name an Island. Come on Opera Devs let's make it happen asap!

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        • rocendroll
          rocendroll last edited by rocendroll

          I feel that there could be "compact" theme where these gaps would be deleted, and bars tighten by couple of px?
          Also, why there is shrinking option only for addons icon not the whole icon bar? Or to give user the ability to pin whichever icon he choose that he doesn't want to be hidden at a click on this blue separator
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          This is how much space is being freed
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          • MarqM
            MarqM @cirenjules last edited by

            @cirenjules In my opinion, naming the island only makes sense when the name stays visible when the island is collapsed. There is a reason when I establish a tab in the tab bar. I have searched for a content and I want to keep it to be able to look it up whenever I need it without having to search for it again. How reasonable is it to hide away the searched content completely in such a featureless dash so that you finally have to search for it again in your tab bar, when there are only lots of those meaningless dashes there. This is outright absurd.

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            • cirenjules
              cirenjules @MarqM last edited by

              @marqm I agree - the name needs to remain visible - even if it's vertical inside the Island. My current workaround is to just hover the mouse pointer over an Island; which then opens up a Tab List for that Island (from which you can select a specific Tab). It kinda works but a user defined, permanently display Name would be best imo.

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              • MarqM
                MarqM @cirenjules last edited by

                @cirenjules I would not call that a workaround. It is just one of the two possible methods to work with tab islands in the current state. The first one is to hover over all collapsed islands to see its content, the second method would be to expand the islands before starting to work with them. Both methods could be quite time consuming when the tab bar is clustered with those colorful dashes, not at all convenient when I want to find content quickly.
                My "workaround" is not to use tab islands as long as they can not be configured that way, that they do not play hide and seek with me for my content.
                This is just like having a library at home and then deliberately wiping out the labeling at the back of the books - how reasonable is that?

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                • lehuspohus
                  lehuspohus last edited by

                  Guys, seriously.. fire you new designer and bring back the old one..

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                  And add the button to completely disable this UI\UX mess.
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                  • PabTorre
                    PabTorre last edited by

                    Hey there!

                    I recently started using workspaces, and I must say, I was really excited to customize them with different logos and names. I grouped the tabs across three windows into three different workspaces, hoping to have a more organized browsing experience. However, I encountered an issue after closing the windows and restarting Opera – it seems like nothing was saved, and I'm a bit puzzled about it.

                    I have a couple of questions about workspaces, and I'm hoping someone could shed some light on the situation:

                    Are workspaces intended to be global across all windows? I'm curious to know if my customization should carry over to any Opera window I open.

                    Are workspaces persistent after a restart? It would be fantastic if the changes I made to each workspace would be saved and readily available when I relaunch Opera.

                    If workspaces are supposed to be persistent and customizable, then I might have missed a step or misunderstood something. In that case, could someone kindly point me in the right direction?

                    On the other hand, if workspaces aren't meant to be saved or customized across sessions, I'd like to understand the reasoning behind it, as it seems like a fantastic feature that could greatly enhance my browsing organization.

                    Lastly, is there a setting I need to adjust to ensure that my workspaces are saved and don't reset after restarting Opera?

                    I'm really looking forward to your valuable insights and suggestions. Thanks in advance for your help and understanding!

                    Best regards,

                    Pabtorre

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                    • weirdtuned
                      weirdtuned @lehuspohus last edited by

                      @lehuspohus 100 times this! Preposterous design inconsistency and ridiculous choice of abhorrent rounded corners!
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                      • Wild-Rabbit
                        Wild-Rabbit last edited by

                        hate
                        my tabs keep moving no matter what I do. I deselected cycle tabs in most recent order, I pinned them they still do it. i hate this update so much

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                        • supasnoop
                          supasnoop @leocg last edited by

                          @leocg How do I completely disable Tab Islands? I don't want to see or use them at all. They're extremely disruptive and really annoying to look at. If there is no option to customize Opera how I actually use it (like before Opera One), I will uninstall it from all of my devices.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @supasnoop last edited by

                            @supasnoop Automatic tabs islands can be disabled in settings.

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                            • Hexenschuss
                              Hexenschuss @Hexenschuss last edited by

                              Seems like they read and listen this topic, not commonly seen nowadays... One bug fixed, zillions to go! 😉

                              was:
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                              is:
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                              ...although I would argue that favicons shouldn't overlap the separator

                              The suggested piece of Opera One code may look like this:

                              faviconDisplayWindowSize = ...; // calculate the visible part of the favicon
                              faviconDisplayWindowSize--; // <-- my humble suggestion ;)
                              

                              ----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<---

                              The tabs are rendered in a completely illegible manner, with transparency and overlap, and without any cropping of favicons.

                              It completely ruined any remaining accessibility - please compare current version from Opera One vs. Opera GX. I admit I have a lot of tabs open, but they were distinguishable from each other previously, while right now it's a mess.

                              Tabs-opera-one.PNG
                              Tabs-opera-gaming.PNG

                              Why don't you test your soft on edge cases, instead you choose to go the safe path with only 3 tabs opened, with a full-screen window, and claim success afterwards?

                              Hope this cancer from O.O doesn't reach O.GX. If so, I honestly admit I will have to switch to Edge.

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                              • wladthemlat
                                wladthemlat last edited by

                                I want to be able to close the island with a middle click like a normal tab.

                                If I open a few new pages from a single source (thus creating an island) I often want to get rid of them after I am done with whatever lead to them being open. I don't want to focus on the context menu and search for the close button (which could at least have an X icon so I don't have to read the options as I don't see that good)..

                                I want to quickly middle click on the colored bar of the island and presto, tabs and island gone.

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                                • derapalne
                                  derapalne @Meeker-Morgan last edited by

                                  @meeker-morgan
                                  This!! The workspaces animation is awful. Completely Unnecesary, and it should be togglable.

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                                  • lehuspohus
                                    lehuspohus @weirdtuned last edited by leocg

                                    @weirdtuned Totally agreed!

                                    This "island" update is worst change since moving to Chromium engine.
                                    Even Lucid mode fail has been quickly fixed after feedback..
                                    I don't know what the Opera dev team was thinking when they added these "islands" to the main content area?

                                    So my suggestion to Opera team: if you so thirsty and wanna add tab islands, add Tabs islands only. With option to completely disable this feature, not just to "automatically create tab islands".
                                    Leave all other areas untouched.
                                    We do not need content-island, bookmark-island or any other "island" on other places..

                                    And what is is? Just ridicilous
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                                    • supasnoop
                                      supasnoop @lehuspohus last edited by

                                      @lehuspohus That! All of it! The new design is terrible and difficult to read. Rounded corners make the tab titles hard to read. I ended up having to copy and paste tab urls to a different browser altogether.

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                                      • supasnoop
                                        supasnoop @leocg last edited by

                                        @leocg I did disable it in Settings when my tabs were still open. It did nothing. Had to close all of them, clear the browser data, then restart the browser to actually get rid of the islands. I don't like islands or animations being on by default for updates or fresh installs.

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @supasnoop last edited by

                                          @supasnoop As the name says, the setting is for enable/disable the automatic creation of tabs islands. It won't remove the islands that were already created and won't avoid the manual creation of islands.

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                                          • abstractelk
                                            abstractelk last edited by

                                            Before the update when using touch screen I used to be able to tap a tab for the "x" to appear so I could close a tab. Now I have to hover over tab with mouse or trackpad to get the "x" to show up. Can this be fixed so I can easily close tabs while using touch screen?

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