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    • A Former User
      A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

      @leocg: Short for Opera macOS from

      Julia Szyndzielorz
      Opera just got even faster with M1 support for Mac fans and custom shortcuts
      April 1, 2021

      published there https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/

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      • A Former User
        A Former User @leocg last edited by

        @leocg: I'm using Yandex Browser for Debian which lags a bit from Win versions. I can't tell you now about my YB, but I'll check it later.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

          @pavelopdev Context please. This page is just a topic for people to discuss the release of Opera Developer 77.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

            @pavelopdev Opera now supports the M1 processor, that's all.

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            • A Former User
              A Former User @leocg last edited by

              @leocg Nope. Vivaldi has created separate version for ARM processors, for example. Whole lot of other compilation issues. Do not soap my eyes, please.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                @pavelopdev This is Opera's forum, and there is no separated version for M1.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                  @leocg I've made an error, n-th time. I wrote about the never ending changelog never appearing. Never appearing information on new releases, overloaded changelogs mixing Opera versions etc.

                  I found Opera Stable Version:75.0.3969.149
                  Where is the corresponding information and explanation?

                  I+m not suggesting you have problem with your vision, but... see yourself below.

                  Opera Snapshot_2021-04-13_144949_blogs.opera.com.png

                  Opera Snapshot_2021-04-13_144650_blogs.opera.com.png

                  ssox_2433.png

                  Q.E.D.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @leocg last edited by

                    @leocg I've stopped paying attention to your answers many weeks ago. When you try to help you are helpful, but many times you seem to bravely defend an Ivory Tower which does not exist. Stop playing this ping-pong attitude once and for all. It's senseless.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                      @pavelopdev Changelogs don't mix different Opera versions, Changelogs are per version (In this case, 77) and are se separated by (released) builds (4023.0 for this release).

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @leocg last edited by

                        @leocg Helpful and clear. Thanks.
                        It means Opera is using core builds to which are then added external layouts e.g. macOS, GX and Developer. Am I correct now?

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                          @pavelopdev And sorry but I couldn't get your point regarding Opera 75 and it's changelog.

                          The page you mentioned is the Opera 75 release post and it mentions the main features and fixes for that version.
                          Bug fixing builds may or may not have their own release posts. However the changes are listed on the changelog. Which, by the way, seems to be offline now.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User @leocg last edited by leocg

                            @leocg Well, I'm straight man, not downright simpleton, but I appreciate straightforward documentation.

                            Main tree

                            • Opera Stable
                            • Opera Beta
                            • Opera Developer

                            Forked tree

                            • Opera Mobile (bla. bla...)
                            • Opera GX
                            • Opera macOS

                            Others tree

                            • Opera Whatever Yo Conjured Up in Your Forges

                            Every lineage should have distinct documentation correlated with every new release:

                            • release info
                            • debuggerlog
                            • changelog

                            Whether you make all three branches (lineages) of main Opera (stable, beta, developer) based on One core build is important to You only.

                            I do discern Opera on their GUI and target (CPU or user groups). Namely, I do see and recognize Opera as Stable, Opera Beta and Opera Developer (all for Desktop) only.

                            That's why I search for clear and actual information about release info, debugger info and change info (development, new features info).

                            The simple structure is f... up by Opera Teamers constantly. I'm sorry, but the language is justifiable. Everything in those areas is being botched up time after time. Where the hell search for the basic information about new releases then when they do not exist?

                            It doesn't matter if it is 75, 76, 77 or whatever number, the respective posts are happen to be bungled. It should never been happening!

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                            • l33t4opera
                              l33t4opera @angrypenguin last edited by l33t4opera

                              Hi @angrypenguin, it's different flag - I mean "#disable-accelerated-video-decode", you have to keep it disabled if you want to use HW acceleration on Windows.
                              You can re-enable the "#enable-accelerated-video-decode", but you need firstly enable "opera:flags#temporary-unexpire-flags-m90", restart the browser and you should be able to see it again.
                              It looks like usual procedure for Chromium's developers, when they disable a flag for a feature which is stable enough and/or when an option to switch it on/off already exist in Settings.

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                              • l33t4opera
                                l33t4opera @Guest last edited by l33t4opera

                                Hi @pavelopdev, regarding "accelerated video decode", please read my reply here.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User @Guest last edited by

                                  @pavelopdev Addendum.

                                  I do not want as well any mix (Tennis expression) in Opera XX (77, whatever number) Developer changelog page. I do not want information about GX and ARM (macOS). Leave the shit (for me) to other branches of releases. On Opera 77 developer (or whatever) I need to have information about Opera Developer (number here, please) only.

                                  The sad see-saw game on Opera Stable branch is outrages. I've proved it earlier on this forum page markedly enough.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User @l33t4opera last edited by A Former User

                                    @l33t4opera Thanks, I thought about it. The issue will emerge when the number is increased. 😞 In other words the problem will continue probably with new updates.

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                      @pavelopdev said:

                                      Open https://zen.yandex.com. Scroll down to any zen showing a film. When you switch Vulkan on
                                      Use vulkan as the graphics backend. – Windows, Linux, Android
                                      #enable-vulkan Enabled

                                      and reload Opera, all the films will start to blink with repetition (blink) frequencies increasing quickly with passing times.

                                      Maybe that's why the flag is disabled by default? Didn't test with this version yet but in the previous ones enabling that flag resulted in lots of issues.

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                                      • l33t4opera
                                        l33t4opera @Guest last edited by l33t4opera

                                        @pavelopdev Not a problem ;-)
                                        Though I'm not completely sure, but it should be OK. I think they have a plan to have it enabled by default in most cases (for most popular and new GPUs), and if you want to disable only HW acceleration (in case it will not work properly), there's "--disable-accelerated-video-decode" switch for it and it should be available, even after the other flag is gone.

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                          @pavelopdev Stable, beta and Developer are stages of the development of the software, branches like you said.
                                          You can either follow each version though each stage/branch or you can just pick one branch to follow and forget the other two. I prefer the second option.

                                          Mobile versions of Opera are made by different teams and it doesn't make sense to discuss them in a topic about Opera for Desktops.

                                          And for desktops there are only regular Opera and Opera GX.

                                          Every lineage should have distinct documentation correlated with every new release:

                                          That's what happens, except for the debug thing.

                                          Everything in those areas is being botched up time after time

                                          How if it haven't changed in a long while?

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                                          • kened
                                            kened Banned last edited by

                                            It has been almost four months since the Opera team asked users for suggestions on how to improve the enhanced address bar. But so far, nothing new has been added to it.

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