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    • techsonic
      techsonic last edited by

      I used to have a menu bar at the top and now it's this red tab. I've been off the Internet on my home computer for some time and when I updated the visuals are changed a lot. I cannot access or see the menu bar "File, Edit, View, etc". The new tab menu is great and all but it's very annoying to me and I'll like to get the old view back without downgrading. Sense all the other browsers are out of the question as an alternative to this issue, I really need this visual issue resolved.

      Thanks in advance.

      Additional Note: The reason I can't use other browsers is because of all the security holes they have, especially Chrome spyware. Although for some reason Opera feels a bit Chrome-ish right now......Anyways great it's able to run MS Silverlight now, yay! Netflix!

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        If you are using Opera 12.16 or older: O Menu > Show Menu Bar

        If you are using Opera 15+, there is no menu bar.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          Press the Alt key to show the menu. The menu bar is a waste of space if you use a keyboard.

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          • techsonic
            techsonic last edited by

            I use a keyboard, but it's not wireless when I'm sitting back watching stuff on Netflix. Also I don't mind it taking up a bit of space, my screen is 42 inches on both. Most pages show up in the entire screen. I wont even update Windows because of the start menu changes and the lack of one on ver.8

            I'll never upgrade from Windows 2000, seems I'll have to not upgrade Opera for now on.

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              Originally posted by techsonic:

              I wont even update Windows because of the start menu changes and the lack of one on ver.8

              Opera has a button just like the Start button, so what's wrong with using that if you are sitting back using just a mouse? There's also the context menu for most tasks. Having a top menu is only going to save more than one click, if that.

              I think you will have to get used to it. I don't see the menu bar coming back, except perhaps on Linux.

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              • techsonic
                techsonic last edited by

                Originally posted by Pesala:

                Originally posted by techsonic:

                I wont even update Windows because of the start menu changes and the lack of one on ver.8

                Opera has a button just like the Start button, so what's wrong with using that if you are sitting back using just a mouse? There's also the context menu for most tasks. Having a top menu is only going to save more than one click, if that.

                I think you will have to get used to it. I don't see the menu bar coming back, except perhaps on Linux.

                I don't have to get used to anything. I don't like it this way and will not put up with it.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Originally posted by techsonic:

                  I don't like it this way and will not put up with it.

                  You must either learn to put up it, use a previous version, or use another browser. I choose to use a previous version, but not for this reason. I don't use the menu bar anyway, and haven't done for years.

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                  • abalonebrush
                    abalonebrush last edited by

                    I ask for the menu bar too, so i can disable show the "x" on each tab and i can see more title on each tab (I open like 10 tabs every time!)

                    and Pesala, i see your point about wasting space of manu bar on every post about menu bar
                    but why not leave us a choice to use it or not. I don't see why can't they co-exist.

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                    • blackbird71
                      blackbird71 last edited by

                      Originally posted by abalonebrush:

                      ... Pesala, i see your point about wasting space of manu bar on every post about menu bar
                      but why not leave us a choice to use it or not. I don't see why can't they co-exist.

                      They can co-exist. But: "choices" require coding to support them. Coding costs money and time... and competes for resources with other planned and scheduled tasks. Even though a show-menu setting might take but little code itself, it (and the related menu bar) must be integrated into the overall GUI concept and code, and that may (or may not) require a lot more coding or be at cross-purposes with other "features". It really all comes down to the initial design concept Opera chose to pursue for various marketing and economy-of-design reasons, which appears to have not deemed things like menu and bookmark bars to be worth their effort to include up front. Obviously, not all of us agree with that decision... but it was their call to make.

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                      • plentpakw
                        plentpakw last edited by

                        The philosophy seems to have changed majorly from the old Opera to the new. Previously everything was customizable, but now Opera has gone in a different direction, more akin to Chrome.

                        Like some of the others, I can't use a browser without a menu bar option since I have another program that always sits where the menu bar is. In every other program it's fine, except in Chrome, and now Opera, it blocks the tabs.

                        If possible, I'd suggest trying Firefox -- with a combination of a number of extensions, you can duplicate almost all of the old Opera's features.

                        Best regards,
                        plenTpak

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          I can't use a browser without a menu bar option since I have another program that always sits where the menu bar is. In every other program it's fine, except in Chrome, and now Opera, it blocks the tabs.

                          ????
                          It doesn't block the tabs, at least in maximized window you can easily click them. With a classic menu bar you want yes it'd block the tabs regardless of window restore state.

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                          • lem729
                            lem729 last edited by

                            I don't have to get used to anything. I don't like it this way and will not put up with it.

                            No big deal. Just press the alt key to open the menu. It's a very simple toggle. If you won't do that, then you need to use another browser.

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                            • Deleted User
                              Deleted User last edited by

                              LOL... so he made one post... count that ONE... just to announce that he will not, he cannot put up with it and is going to Firefox. Didn't want to discuss it. Wasn't looking for answers (lem gave him the answer). No, he just wanted to climb atop his soapbox and spout off. Okay, you had your fifteen seconds. And y'all have a nice day in Firefox land. Bye.

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                              • justablacksmith
                                justablacksmith last edited by

                                I like the functionality of the menu bar.. It pleases me.. I will revert to a prior version.. now, was that so hard?.. Must that person be such a Drama Queen?..

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                                • BigBobAgg
                                  BigBobAgg last edited by

                                  i'm finding this a bit confusing.
                                  "alt" simply makes the name of the current tab vanish while u see the menu bar, BUT where has my red opera button gone with "turbo" on it?

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                                  • sgunhouse
                                    sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    What version of Opera are you using?

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                                    • BigBobAgg
                                      BigBobAgg last edited by

                                      the very latest.
                                      Version: 26.0.1632.0 - Opera is up to date

                                      Update stream: developer

                                      System: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (x86_64; Unity)

                                      (i'm not a developer, i just wanna learn a bit, so please keep it simple, thank u very kindly!)

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                                      • BigBobAgg
                                        BigBobAgg last edited by

                                        on the above subject of needed code for both tab,and i guess red "O" button as options, the arguement about extra code seems pointless.the code for both exist already, and professional developers will have templates etc....
                                        i just want the actual options like turbo that i got with the red "O" button. it's less time-wasting to navigate my way through.

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                                        • mikey1969
                                          mikey1969 last edited by

                                          After perusing this thread and the previous, this is what I've discovered:

                                          Answer #1 is apparently: Only stupid people need a menu bar.

                                          Answer #2 is: But everything is still there

                                          Answer #3 is: It "saves space".

                                          In response to #1, I used to come to web forums for help accomplishing certain tasks. When I first started, the Adobe forums were a newbie's dream. People were friendly, other people would bump your post if they had the same question, highly regarded pros in the field in question would get on and give you great tips.

                                          Did I mention that people were friendly? That's an important part. Everything changed about 2003 or so, people started turning into major pricks and seemed more interested in calling you names

                                          To sum it all up:

                                          I was using Opera until about a year ago, from the days when it was a beta product. They used to be innovative, but I quit because it became a top heavy piece of crap that STILL didn't work with many websites. I got tired of playing the games, waiting for realistic support. I thought maybe they would have cleaned their act up, and I really missed my mouse gestures. Besides, I had wondered about the lack of a menu bar, and found a single a-hole on the Chrome "help" forums who did the same thing as Pasela, and decided that he'd play the A-hole in charge. It's like I'm on an Apple message board...

                                          Also: If you don't have an actual answer, and aren't looking to solve the same issue, stay off of the thread.

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                                          • Deleted User
                                            Deleted User last edited by

                                            What is your question? Or is this first-time post simply an opportunity to spout off?
                                            And... since you don't "have an actual answer and aren't looking to solve any issue", perhaps you should follow your own advice and: "stay off of the thread."

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