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    Opera Mini 19 beta for Android

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    • d-wa
      d-wa last edited by

      Opera has built its mobile base around Mini so Opera for Android comes at a second or... last place. Mini is updated with every WebView update immediately, while O for A sits at a chromium version of 50 while chrome beta is on 53. That shows a lot doesn't it?

      I thought it was Blink or something. 😕

      About turning off images I'm not sure this works as it's currently "fake" in O for A, when you use extreme mode in Mini the browser switches to the presto engine which cuts from the client side a lot of stuff, it's not a matter of heavier compression, you can check in html5test.com for example how much is being disabled. We need a similar approach, from the client side.

      Extreme compression made possible because there's server (which actually have the Presto engine) in between which loads all completely first then compress and send it to client. I don't see how this gonna be applied to client device utilizing WebView. Maybe this could explain OfA's behaviour.

      Unless like I mentioned block the image files before it loads. After that just need to figure out the image frame.

      Cookies are not the same for the same reason they use different engines and probably different servers. But what needs to be fixed is that Mini does not keep you logged in if you close and restart the browser in any mode a thing that works fine in O for A.

      As a matter of fact it did save my login sessions, but I don't know, it randomly log me out once in a while.
      For shared cookies, there's must be a way, I believe.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        Opera has built its mobile base around Mini so Opera for Android comes at a second or... last place. Mini is updated with every WebView update immediately, while O for A sits at a chromium version of 50 while chrome beta is on 53. That shows a lot doesn't it?

        The difference comes from the engine. While OfA render a webpage like a PC browser (built-in engine), OM utilize Android WebView on client device for High Saving.

        I know that already as you can see from the bold highlights, I was commenting on why O4A lags so much in updating compared to Mini even though they are the same company as you 've said 🙂

        But what needs to be fixed is that Mini does not keep you logged in if you close and restart the browser in any mode a thing that works fine in O for A.

        As a matter of fact it did save my login sessions, but I don't know, it randomly log me out once in a while.
        For shared cookies, there's must be a way, I believe.

        Check it again with high savings on wifi for example, in this forum or any other, including Opera's blog which uses Disqus, you always have to login again if you close the browser and load it again. O4A with data compression on works fine as expected.

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        • d-wa
          d-wa last edited by

          Yeah, that's why I edit my post.
          And for the second point the WebView is a dependency. It didn't comes with each of mini's updates. It's in the device.
          You can't compare the two for it.

          Check it again with high savings on wifi for example, in this forum or any other, including Opera's blog which uses Disqus, you always have to login again if you close the browser and load it again. O4A with data compression on works fine as expected.

          I've checked just now. force stop it, facebook not logged out.

          But writing this, once I post comment I've logged out? Maybe it just this forum?

          Does 'data savings on wi-fi' have any effects?

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            a) We have a known issue that in very rare cases, the network does not work until you restart the browser. This is by far the client issue.

            Actually that's not rare at all, you only have to load up some other app that is using a VPN like Opera Max or Surfeasy who change the IP (connect, disconnect etc.) and you get this behavior.

            Maybe it just this forum? Does 'data savings on wi-fi' have any effects?

            You are right it doesn't happen with some other forums I 've just tested right now, only with this and with disqus logging. (Wifi compression on)

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            • hammerjoe
              hammerjoe last edited by

              where is the user agent option? i want the desktop vesion of a website and i keep getting the mobile version.

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              • mvtreo
                mvtreo last edited by

                Please bring back the "find in page" button. It was substituted by the arrow button (redundant, IMHO).

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                • jackob11
                  jackob11 last edited by

                  Opera Mini beta 19.0.2254.106904 frequently crushed on my device. The built in adblocker has some problems. After I disable the adblcker & browse internet. Many website notify me that 'I've adblocker enabled' So, I check it again but it was disabled.
                  Thumbs down. Booooooooo !!!!!

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                  • jackob11
                    jackob11 last edited by

                    It seems Opera Mini beta got update today (just saw this via Opera Mini)
                    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.native.beta&hl=en
                    But what the heck? Still I'm not getting any update via Google Play. Then I try some online downloader which can able to fetch & download play apps via web browser. Such as apk-dl.com
                    & it shows Opera Mini beta got an update today (24 august) but it still the previous version "Opera Mini beta 19.0.2254.106904"
                    What's this ??????

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                    • miyukiwork
                      miyukiwork Opera last edited by

                      Now we have pushed a new beta today. In this version, we focused on fixing bugs. If you have any problems, please let us know.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Like jackob11 said it's nowhere to be found in Google Play. What is the build number of the new version?

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                        • miyukiwork
                          miyukiwork Opera last edited by

                          @xirit32 It's 19.0.2254.107171

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                          • jackob11
                            jackob11 last edited by

                            Still I'm not getting any update from Google Play.
                            For me, it's showing the previous version which was updated on 17 August
                            Any direct link to download the new version ???

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              Just updated it from Play Store. Probably the rollout is still happening.

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Just now as well, took a while. @miyukiwork Please fix bug ANMEXT-26271 regarding the vanishing of the navigation bar when selecting/copying text while in fullscreen mode with status bar (classic layout), a very annoying, browser breaking bug that is also in Mini Stable for quite some time.

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                                • miyukiwork
                                  miyukiwork Opera last edited by

                                  @xirit32, thanks for reporting the issue. We'll look into ANMEXT-26271.

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                                  • miyukiwork
                                    miyukiwork Opera last edited by

                                    @xirit32, scrolling up gives you the bottom navigation bar again right?

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      @xirit32, scrolling up gives you the bottom navigation bar again right?

                                      No, as long as I select and copy a text the navigation bar never comes up again no matter what direction I scroll. Requirement for that is of course that the nav bar is not visible while selecting and copying (full screen enabled with status bar).

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        didn't realize the developer again took out the file renaming dialogue box popping up in a file saving session!why!are we back to the design of opera mini 7.6.4? it is a regression! if it is to expedite the saving process, an option could be added to the settings, much as the saving location option. LET USERS CHOOSE IT!

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          wish item:

                                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxzpGHcfq912dHlIeXVWR3V2akxYSnJJY2c5c1VNNFZ6bk9v/view?pref=2&pli=1

                                          looking forward an option of "add to download (queue)". (not to download on the instant, but to batch download later.)

                                          William
                                          Hongkong
                                          Aug 27, 2016

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            wish item:

                                            please add "save target as"

                                            save image sometimes saving thumbnail only,
                                            save target gives the real images behind.

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