OK, here's the second minor issue:

Also, how are we supposed to move open windows? I can't grab anywhere but at the right end of the window toolbar, which doesn't always work, once part of the window is to the right of the screen already. Why can't we grab from the left end?

Also on an iMac with OS 11.7.1 and the latest Opera version.

@leocg On the other hand, if a change adversely affects the experience of a lot of users (especially when the change doesn't actually add anything of practical use), posting several time, simply to say "since I don't use the method that the change impacts, I'm fine with it", contributes nothing helpful to the discussion.
Although it's not quite as snarky, as those who, when a lot of people complain about having a certain issue, will post that they aren't having any problem, so it must not be a real issue.
These forums are for those having problems to try and find solutions, extraneous comments announcing they don't have a problem, or that it can't really be a problem, to demean others or negate their experience , have no place, as they are not productive.

Well, I'd be happy to swap issues with you, because I DO have the "delay loading of background tabs" selected, but they all load, which is NOT what I want at all, as it slows down opening & closing Opera, and runs up my RAM & CPU Usage big time! Maybe the key is to select the opposite of what we want in the preferences, maybe if I not select it, the background tabs won't open, and vice versa. But it is quite odd that we are both experiencing Opera not doing what we've selected, really odd...

@leocg Do you honestly think this kind of response is rational, or even respectful of those posting here? When carmakers do a recall, because a flaw in one system may cause fatal occurrences, it is Never about "all" or "most" of the cars being deathtraps, so denying bugs exist in Opera because it doesn't show itself in your computer, or the developers, is like being one of the blind men and the elephant. It doesn't affect me, so it must not be affecting everyone... You don't think it's at all reasonable to believe that if all other browsers work normally, but Opera, in a good number of cases, & you know only a tiny percentage of people take the time and effort to post in this forum (which is not known as a very realistic pathway to foment positive changes, but only to vent, or find workarounds. You can count on thousands of others simply throwing up their hands and moving off Opera, back to a more reliable browser. To make extrapolations based on the number of those complaining here is quite unscientific...

Don't like it popping up with every page of search results I go to, especially when the items it's showing me are NOT the one I'm searching for!

Originally posted by blackbird71:

hat's why I used the term "Opera Presto" - that term corresponds to the "old" Opera versions at or below 12.16. Opera versions 15 and above are Blink Opera versions (built around the Blink rendering engine). In any case, I was initially responding to your question about the "button Menu", which term only appeared in Pesala's list of browser behavior with regard to Opera Presto... so I was assuming you were trying to get a Presto version to show the Menu Bar as well. As Frenzie has noted above, Blink Opera versions (including 18) don't include a menu bar, at least not yet.

No, Pesala's list included the Blink version of Opera, not just Presto:

"Opera Presto: Menu bar off by default, enable from Button menu, shown with Alt key
IE11: Menu bar off by default, show with Alt key
Chrome: No menu bar; no Alt key shortcut either, click a button to show the menu
Opera Blink: No menu bar; show with the Alt key or click a button."

And there is no menu bar showing with the Alt key, nor is there a button to click, to which he's not replied yet.

@leocg I see it once I reduce or enlarge the page, so I don't know why they don't just have it there all the time? What's the point of it, if you still have use the View menu first? It makes no sense this way, plus, when I click on the icon, the window that opens disappears in about a second or two, usually before I can even click on up or down! Plus, even with the icon, it still involves an extra step no other browser requires. I'm so used to having a zoom in or out icon in the toolbar, that having to first open another menu is just wasted added actions...

But thanks for letting me know about the little icon..

I get this same notice when trying to play videos on some of the major network sites ABC, CBS, etc. which work fine with other browsers, so why can't Opera play them?

@NewWorldMan Yeah, I see that, but it's a race of reflexes to get to the numbers to try and make the zoom more or less!!

@leocg That doesn't work! I can't log in to the site, nor can I change my password in Opera's saved passwords, which is ridiculous! Why can't we manually change it? When I put in the right one on the site, Opera keeps reverting it to the one it has saved, which is not the correct one! And while it shows the site, there's also an Opera window saying the site can't be accessed! Or at least it's half an Opera window, as it's cut in half!

Opera is lately driving me crazy with how many websites it just won't work with, sometimes it's the VPN feature that prevents it from functioning, but others, it's Opera itself, especially video streaming sites, like HULU, and some major network stations. Why is it so incompatible with so many sites???

Trying to type is so very, very slow, I won't even go into all that is wrong.
Suffice it to say that I feel like I'm on a dial-up connection, but even worse...
This is an "update"? Seriously?

@leocg Thanks, that explains it...

@lishaak I've also found the scrollbar to be either not there at all, or it's so light in color, it blends right into the page, and is really hard to see.
Oddly, one place I notice the bar missing is Opera's own start page! I may be way down the page, viewing news items, and find there's no easy way back to the top, due to a missing scrollbar!!

Lately, especially if I click a link in an email, which will open Opera, two or three windows will invariably not open, while the spinning little wheel icon just goes round & round, in the tab window on the top toolbar. And sometimes the article that I clicked, that opened Opera in the first place, is nowhere to be found, and I have to do it again, once it's open. Today, I can see the window with the article, but all it says (other than the url showing) is "Loading" with the spinning little wheel, going round & round (like Joni Mitchell's ""Circle Game")...
Why can't all the tabs in the front windows open?

@leocg On the other hand, if a change adversely affects the experience of a lot of users (especially when the change doesn't actually add anything of practical use), posting several time, simply to say "since I don't use the method that the change impacts, I'm fine with it", contributes nothing helpful to the discussion.
Although it's not quite as snarky, as those who, when a lot of people complain about having a certain issue, will post that they aren't having any problem, so it must not be a real issue.
These forums are for those having problems to try and find solutions, extraneous comments announcing they don't have a problem, or that it can't really be a problem, to demean others or negate their experience , have no place, as they are not productive.

@leocg If it doesn't know my OS password, then how will it know if what I fill in is correct? The whole point is for Opera to verify if I'm me, so this makes even less sense.
And why is that little red, round circle with the black "CBS" eye logo still sitting on this page?

@leocg Well, how does it know my OS password to begin with? I didn't give it to Opera, or another browser, besides maybe Safari. And that still doesn't explain why I can be auto-logged into Opera, yet Opera can't tell me the password it just saw, in order to log me in? Really? Please tell me how that makes any sense at all?
Some sites may require a two-step login, where if there's any question as to whether it was me, they send a code to my phone or email, I put that in, and am on my way. Why it asks for my OS password, is wack, and I'm not going to ever give it to them.

@leocg I think that's pretty much a distinction without a difference, as it still results in Opera not working for some pretty mainstream sites. Who's fault it is, is not really the issue. Isn't Opera basically like Chrome, with some differences, which apparently works with most websites? It would be really helpful if some ambitious web geek put together a chart showing which browsers work and don't work, with a range of various websites.
Then we users could pick those that work with more of the sites we individually use most often.

It really kills the flow when I come to stop, and after trying all kinds of things, realize (or am told) a site just doesn't play with whatever happened to be the browser I was using.

@leocg Thanks, it would be nice if they might let us know what that thing is. It's still sitting on the bottom right of this window, and I've opened and closed Opera several times already. What do I have to do to get rid of it, whatever it is?

And any idea about the flashing/strobing issue? Oops, for a minute I thought it wasn't happening anymore, but soon as the YouTube page fully loaded, the strobing began. That's another infuriating aspect, of videos just auto-playing whenever I re-open Opera, they'll begin long before the page full loads, and so there's not even a pause button or stop button for me to kill the video! So I have to wait until it loads, but of course, it'll play right from jump... makes no sense....

Why do I need to enter my OS password, to see my Opera password, especially when I'm already signed in to Opera???
I just created a new one, which Opera saved, yet it didn't change in my keychain, and even when I go to my account page here, it won't show me my own password, only option is to change it again! I don't want to give Opera my OS password, why does it need that? That only puts all my personal data at risk, just to see my own password, for an account I'm already logged into?
This is ridiculous.... Oh, I somehow got taken to the Windows section, but I guess it's the same principle.