OK, here's the second minor issue:

Also, how are we supposed to move open windows? I can't grab anywhere but at the right end of the window toolbar, which doesn't always work, once part of the window is to the right of the screen already. Why can't we grab from the left end?

Also on an iMac with OS 11.7.1 and the latest Opera version.

Well, I'd be happy to swap issues with you, because I DO have the "delay loading of background tabs" selected, but they all load, which is NOT what I want at all, as it slows down opening & closing Opera, and runs up my RAM & CPU Usage big time! Maybe the key is to select the opposite of what we want in the preferences, maybe if I not select it, the background tabs won't open, and vice versa. But it is quite odd that we are both experiencing Opera not doing what we've selected, really odd...

@leocg Do you honestly think this kind of response is rational, or even respectful of those posting here? When carmakers do a recall, because a flaw in one system may cause fatal occurrences, it is Never about "all" or "most" of the cars being deathtraps, so denying bugs exist in Opera because it doesn't show itself in your computer, or the developers, is like being one of the blind men and the elephant. It doesn't affect me, so it must not be affecting everyone... You don't think it's at all reasonable to believe that if all other browsers work normally, but Opera, in a good number of cases, & you know only a tiny percentage of people take the time and effort to post in this forum (which is not known as a very realistic pathway to foment positive changes, but only to vent, or find workarounds. You can count on thousands of others simply throwing up their hands and moving off Opera, back to a more reliable browser. To make extrapolations based on the number of those complaining here is quite unscientific...

Originally posted by blackbird71:

hat's why I used the term "Opera Presto" - that term corresponds to the "old" Opera versions at or below 12.16. Opera versions 15 and above are Blink Opera versions (built around the Blink rendering engine). In any case, I was initially responding to your question about the "button Menu", which term only appeared in Pesala's list of browser behavior with regard to Opera Presto... so I was assuming you were trying to get a Presto version to show the Menu Bar as well. As Frenzie has noted above, Blink Opera versions (including 18) don't include a menu bar, at least not yet.

No, Pesala's list included the Blink version of Opera, not just Presto:

"Opera Presto: Menu bar off by default, enable from Button menu, shown with Alt key
IE11: Menu bar off by default, show with Alt key
Chrome: No menu bar; no Alt key shortcut either, click a button to show the menu
Opera Blink: No menu bar; show with the Alt key or click a button."

And there is no menu bar showing with the Alt key, nor is there a button to click, to which he's not replied yet.

@leocg I see it once I reduce or enlarge the page, so I don't know why they don't just have it there all the time? What's the point of it, if you still have use the View menu first? It makes no sense this way, plus, when I click on the icon, the window that opens disappears in about a second or two, usually before I can even click on up or down! Plus, even with the icon, it still involves an extra step no other browser requires. I'm so used to having a zoom in or out icon in the toolbar, that having to first open another menu is just wasted added actions...

But thanks for letting me know about the little icon..

Don't like it popping up with every page of search results I go to, especially when the items it's showing me are NOT the one I'm searching for!

I get this same notice when trying to play videos on some of the major network sites ABC, CBS, etc. which work fine with other browsers, so why can't Opera play them?

@NewWorldMan Yeah, I see that, but it's a race of reflexes to get to the numbers to try and make the zoom more or less!!

@leocg That doesn't work! I can't log in to the site, nor can I change my password in Opera's saved passwords, which is ridiculous! Why can't we manually change it? When I put in the right one on the site, Opera keeps reverting it to the one it has saved, which is not the correct one! And while it shows the site, there's also an Opera window saying the site can't be accessed! Or at least it's half an Opera window, as it's cut in half!

Opera is lately driving me crazy with how many websites it just won't work with, sometimes it's the VPN feature that prevents it from functioning, but others, it's Opera itself, especially video streaming sites, like HULU, and some major network stations. Why is it so incompatible with so many sites???

@leocg So, ignore my issue completely because one sentence was capitalized? Good grief...

@b4man I've tried that, too, along with other suggestions I've read elsewhere, and nothing has changed, still the same maddening bs....

@burnout426 I've done everything posted and more, a number of times, and still lose all my passwords every time, and still have that Opera Safe Storage show up in my Keychain! Why can't Opera just fix this with an update? I keep updating to newer versions, and still the same mess.... SMH

@leocg Nothing so far has worked, and I just updated to the more recent version of Opera. I keep hoping against hope that one of these updates will actually contain a fix for this frustrating issue.

@azr1 Hasn't worked for me, and I've done that, as well as delete the Data file from the Library. Every time I open Opera, all passwords are gone...

@b4man Each time I open Opera, ALL the passwords previously saved are gone! I've done the fixes offered in other threads, and they don't change the situation at all... I'm about to just give up on Opera.

@leocg I've deleted the safe storage file and the data file from the library, multiple times, and it's still not remembering passwords! There must be something else going on that these fixes aren't addressing.

@burnout426 Thanks for the updated info. I've deleted the login data, and will see if that does the trick. I see the safe storage file has again re-emerged in my keychain folder, so I deleted it, yet again. And now I'll see if re-logging into sites will stick, next time I close & re-open Opera....

By the way, last night I updated Opera on my older MacBook Pro, and it is now back to its old tricks of running up my RAM & CPU usage! This was happening all the time, until one of the recent updates got rid of that issue. Now it's back again.... wonder what those crafty developers/programmers did this time.

@stevenjcee Downloaded and installed the most recent Opera, and yet again, it Still Won't Save Any Passwords!!! WTH???

@leocg Not sure how this can be considered a "solution", as that "safe storage" file pops up every time I re-open Opera, meaning I still have to manually enter every password over & over again. I sure hope they can fix this bug, the sooner the better. And it's happening on two different devices with different Mac operating systems.

@burnout426 I get that, unfortunately, so far, it's been anything but a "one & done thing", and I'm getting really tired of having to constantly log in to every site manually. Hopefully, Opera fixes this pretty soon, or I'll have to use other browsers. Or maybe one of these deletions will hold, and won't keep re-appearing....