Best posts made by canadagoose4everreturns

@cdelsol Agreed. There should be an opt-in or opt-out button so that those who want to upgrade to Opera One have that option and those who would rather remain with the older version are allowed to do so.

@saeedp Sadly, as I see it now, you have two reasonable alternatives: Vivaldi and Brave. I've opted for Brave at this point.

@davidf44 Agreed. Resolution: just don't use it. When I do go to Bing (which is seldom), I never use the Chat GPT AI. I stick with reliable search engines (DuckDuckGo, Brave, Ecosia, Start Page...).

@lord-of-the-lost I doubt many people are "keen to find out what is bad about the browsers they're not using." There are always going to be some people in forums that are fanboys of certain browsers and will rag on others for whatever reason but you have to bear in mind that most people never join forums and don't care one way or the other. Use whatever browser you want and leave it at that. There is no riddle waiting to be solved and there is no mystery here. Most people just don't care - period. I'm one of those, albeit I've been with Opera for so many years that I still enjoy reading the forum news and comments and yet I no longer use Opera as my daily browser. I cannot think of a single person in my extended family (both sides) that makes an issue about the browser he/she uses and they range from Google Chrome to MS Edge and over to Safari. Most of them don't even care about privacy (with one exception). You're projecting when you imply that large numbers of people care about their browsers - they don't.

@burnout426 Wow! I would never in a thousand years have been able to figure out what you just printed. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort. I hope it will be helpful to others as well.

@habsfan said in General Opera One Appearance Feedback Topic:

they could have least put in a 'Classi Mode' button that let you have the features...but keep the look/layout of what you're used to.

Now here is a suggestion I can get solidly behind. Why not provide an easy way to either opt out or revert to the former UI? This would have kept everyone happy. BTW: there was a time I was also a Habsfan but that was back in the days of Yvon Cournoyer, Guy Lapointe, Serge Savard, Pete Mahovlich and of course Guy Lafleur. I miss that team and the matches with my Leafs. Since moving south of the border, I haven't kept up much. Take care.

@modemjunkie
"Don't wait for the fat lady to sing. This Opera is slim and trim."

Loved the article, Len. You had vision!

@joefonebone Burnout gave a detailed account of how to revert. I don't know how to link to it so if you search you'll find it in his response to my question. The problem is, reverting will only be a temporary fix since we've been informed that Opera intends to push forward with Opera One and that the older version will only receive updates for a limited time.

@habsfan In spite of my being a Leafs fan, I'll still give you an upvote since I share your view of Opera One. You've been with Opera two years longer than I (I began in 2000) and came from Netscape as well (I could no longer stand Netscape 6, if memory serves). Unlike you, however, I've removed Opera One since I received the information that there would be no reverting to the older UI and that updates to the older version would only continue temporarily. Not sure what else to tell you since I'm in the same quandary although unlike you, I've reverted to Firefox rather than Edge.

@t-bone-tone Although my profile doesn't indicate it, I've been with Opera since 2000... back in the pay for the browser days either through ads or without. Switching from Presto to Blink and seeing the migration of engineers away from Opera and losing the MyOpera community was a shock but some of us managed to hang in there. I'm also disappointed with the current direction and frankly, I just am not sure to stick with it.

@darthcontinent said in Do We Have to Install Opera One: I can only hope Opera will step back, course correct, and work more closely with their user base to devise a solution that not only deploys the bleeding edge some of their aspirants crave, but also cater to their devoted longtime user base that's stuck with them until recently.

Indeed. I tried to follow the directions for going back but sadly my many years on this earth and my declining ability to follow (and understand) directions, I gave up in the end and simply uninstalled Opera altogether. On my Surface I've reverted to Edge. On my MacBook I've reverted to Safari. I fear that my many years with Opera have finally come to an end. I noted your words "frightfully egotistical at worst" and thought that perhaps that might explain this new direction. It's simply not for me. I'll watch from the sidelines.

@hucker I've read through this thread and I feel compelled to add that it is "you" who might not understand the term "obnoxious." Why so animated? Chill out a bit. It's a browser, after all, not a life-altering issue. Relax.

@nickismyname It seems to me that you do not read with full comprehension. You've misrepresented my words, constructed a strawman and then taken him apart. Hence, your two posts are without meaning in relation to what I said. Go back to my previous post and read it again: s-l-o-w-l-y this time. I see no reason to address what you've posted nor do I see any reason to repeat what I posted before. I stand by my original post and I believe that user stats bear this out.

@watersotr Permit me to congratulate you on your hard-won achievements in life. It sounds like you are a very industrious worker and one who cares about others and as such I have great respect for what you have accomplished. I wouldn't worry too much about your belief that you can't keep up with tech lingo and the rapid changes in technology and computer software; welcome to the club. My 89 year old sister still struggles to use her iPad but she doesn't give up and I admire her for it. It is a shame that Opera has not given options for its users in terms of those who wish to remain with the previous version being allowed to do so. But that doesn't appear to be the case and therefore to remain safe online we're going to need to make a decision: upgrade to Opera One or install a different browser that is closer to what Opera once was (i.e. Vivaldi, Brave or even Firefox). Good luck.

@darthgtb An extension to revert would be awesome. I agree, however, that Opera is not going to go back from Opera One regardless of the discontent some feel about the new design.

@locutus What does Brave have to do with accusations made against Opera?

@nickismyname Money determines a company's resources. Opera is not a company that has unlimited resources. It's a small player in the browser field. So, it has to cater to what "most" people want rather than try to be a niche player. And what do "most" people want in terms of a browser? Most want a browser that is easy to understand and use, does not struggle opening sites because the website designers have coded for that browser, offers a measure of privacy and security and gets "out of the way". The browser is not the objective; the website is. People want to do their banking, shop, go on a social media platform, read the news and the browser is simply a tool to get them to that objective. The idea of making a browser endlessly customizable does not appeal to most users but rather to a small, niche group who play with their browser's features and looks etc. Most people simply don't care. Browsers built on chromium (Chrome, Edge, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi ...) are going to remain popular because web designers have coded for chromium browsers. Period. And sadly, statistics have shown that most simply accept whatever comes with the computer (i.e. the default browser). Hence Google Chrome will remain the main browser followed by Edge for years to come. And if a company wants to remain relevant, it has to code so that it is "similar" to Chrome (i.e. easy to use, fast, relatively secure, etc etc etc). And that's the long and short of it.

@lord-of-the-lost Thanks for clarifying.
Everything I'm writing here is a pure guess since I have no idea why people use one browser over another and then badmouth the other. It seems to me that the people who choose Vivaldi want a browser suite (email, calendar, RSS feed, browser) and one that they can endlessly customize. There is no other browser quite like it and it seems to be the darling of a small niche (aka: nerdy) group for the most part. Up until Opera One, I loved Opera's aesthetics (its GUI) and its heritage (I had used it from 2000 onward until it dumped Presto and many of its developers left). I'm not a huge fan of Opera One as you can tell. Brave jumped on the privacy and ad-blocking wagon early on and thereby won over a lot of users disenchanted with Google Chrome's lack of privacy (the cryto currency stuff and the BAT rewards are something many just turn off). It's my belief that all of these browsers will likely remain single digit in the overall use worldwide. As for Firefox, it's the only one that dares to remain outside the Chromium coral and has the Netscape heritage so there are many faithful that continue with it as an outlier, a renegade and our only hope to withstand a monopoly. But sadly it is a dying breed as fewer and fewer developers code for it. It remains my browser of choice simply because I started with Netscape 3.0 Gold and continued with it until I discovered Opera, then used both. Going forward, Chrome and Edge will dominate in the Windows OS and Safari will remain firmly as the Mac standard. This is all guess-work on my part and truth be told, I just don't care one way or the other. I'm happy with Firefox so I'll remain with it.

@traveltales All of these chromium browsers are pretty much the same with a little difference in window dressing. You can load extensions from the Chrome store and build whatever it is that you say you "need" so I'm at a loss why the hesitation to use a particular browser. You can have multiple browsers so why not download the ones in which you're interested and run with each one individually for a week to get a feel for the browser you're most comfortable with and then go with it. The browser is simply a program to get you to where you want to go for business or pleasure. Most users do not want something as customizable as Vivaldi simply because they can't be bothered playing around with the browser. Vivaldi is essentially a "geeky" browser and that is why its numbers will always be one-digit. Opera should never have changed to Opera One and because of its association with China (unfair but nevertheless true) it will always remain far behind the others. Your viable choices are: Google Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Brave (with Safari on the Mac) on Windows. And that's the long and short of it.

@celticcross Good morning, Celticcross.
Everything I say is simply my opinion and not necessarily factual. It "seems to me" that we can easily become mislead by others commenting online. If you were to take the sum total of all the commenters here and on Vivaldi's forum (etc), and then compare that number with the billions of people online who never bother with forums or asking questions about browsers, I'm certain you'd discover that the number is exceedingly small. As I've mentioned many times now, most people who go online simply don't care about the browser they're using. My wife has a MacBook and a Surface and she uses Edge on her Surface and Safari on her Mac and that's the sum total of it. If I ask her why she doesn't try Brave or Opera or whatever, her eyes would glaze over (I'm being facetious here) and she'd ask me why bother when Safari and Edge work perfectly fine. She simply doesn't care. The sum total of what Blackbird said could be summed up in this: try several and find which browser(s) works best for what you need and then go with it (them). I think a better title for this thread would be: Why are "some" people so emotional about browsers. There are fanboys... evangelists... promoters... of certain browsers but as to why, that's a mystery to me. Really... who actually cares that much? I'll use my wife (since she's sitting right across from me right now on her MacBook) as an example. What is she doing? Shopping! She cares about shopping... not browsers. Safari gets her to where she wants to go - shopping for whatever (oh my aching wallet... haha). I'm only here out of boredom and for nostalgia's sake, having been a part-time Opera user from 2000 onward until the exodus of Jon and many of his loyal developers. Do I care enough to download Opera now and run with it? After checking out Opera One, I see no reason to switch. Currently I have Edge and Brave on my Surface and Safari on my MacBook and that's really it. Hey, just go with what floats your boat. You seem, from your posts, like a great guy who is genuinely interested in technology. Watch some YT videos and do a little research to set your mind at ease as to whlch browser will best fit your needs.