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    Which is the best version of Opera (EXCLUDING anything past 12.17) and why??

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    • joshl
      joshl last edited by

      Grouping?
      Not seen much use of it.

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      • stng
        stng last edited by

        I will explain in words; When you drag one tab to another, it creates a group, next one you drag to it, adds to that group. Groups can be expanded and collapsed. That's it.

        I've found this feature utterly annoying in the page bar (obstructive when moving tabs). And the Desktop Team didn't added opera:config's option to disable tab stacking :down: .

        But TS is very useful in the "Windows" sidebar panel.

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        • kroppy
          kroppy last edited by

          If you usually keep around 10 tabs open then you don't need it. I usually keep around 30-50 tabs open and I usually group them by a research topic. I'm graphics designer, so I very often search for a lot of (cars/furniture/nature) reference images and I tend to open them in new tabs to save/examinate and so on, later.

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          • kroppy
            kroppy last edited by

            But TS is very useful in the "Windows" sidebar panel.

            Yup, it creates you a tree which is very, very! comfy 🙂 You can collapse groups if you have a lot of them 🙂

            PS. LOL, another thread about Tab stacking opened just a few minutes ago, just when I've started to talk about it.

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            • joshl
              joshl last edited by

              Ah, there was "Sessions"!
              You reminded me about it by all this stab tacking - one could use windows and sessions to handle large groups of pages, especially when you don't need them all at once

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              • noodles7
                noodles7 last edited by

                people like leushino just peace me off (he hijacks everyones threads, breaking rule 5 of this forum)

                I understand you perfectly. I got the same feeling.

                I also use stacking, it is a power feature for organisation.
                For Windows TS I use full panel because there are lot of web documents with long title which doesn't fit well in a small side-panel and I don't like my panel use half of my screen.

                For going back to topic, if I remember correctly, 12.02 is last 12 version supporting Unite.

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                • falloutboy09
                  falloutboy09 last edited by

                  Ah, there was "Sessions"!
                  You reminded me about it by all this stab tacking - one could use windows and sessions to handle large groups of pages, especially when you don't need them all at once

                  And now imagine sessions with sorted groups of opened tabs in them.
                  and voila u got a normal day in my past days (Opera 11)

                  But indeed the option to save actual sessions was extremely helpful as I was looking for new job or researching something particular.

                  Oh and a feature I miss is that ... if you write something in a Forum answer box, and accidentally close the tab, or press back, and come back to the answer box - what you typed is gone.
                  This was killing me for weeks while using 24 Opera, as I was so used to switch back and forth and keep on writing.

                  Feature: The Wand
                  Ahh having multiple logins for a page, most of them just different by the last digit. Just hit ctrl+enter, hit the down key a few times, hit enter, you're logged in.
                  That is something I was sooooo used to, and I am so used to Opera handling my accounts that hoping on 24 was really a bad day. Heck I couldn't remember most of the login data 😞 As since the dawn of time, Opera knew all about them 😃 So yes, the old listing of accounts in the Wand - that was really practical.

                  As I previously sad, for me it is not really bound to a specific version, it is more about the whole package that Presto Opera offered. Till they dropped Opera Unite, that day I didn't update anymore.

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                  • lusht
                    lusht last edited by

                    Same, I stick with 12.14 while it is still possible.

                    Yes, it is slow as hell now on new pages loaded with lots of bull.
                    Yes, no full support of HTML5 and html5 video/streaming.

                    But the features of old good Opera outweigh disadvantages.

                    if only Opera devs would realize that nobody really cares about another Chrome clone... oh well.

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                    • Deleted User
                      Deleted User last edited by

                      Why would you think that the devs don't care?f Is it just because they don't happen to be turning Opera Blink back into Opera Presto? To say that "no one cares about another Chrome clone" is patently false for the simple reason that Opera Blink is not a Chrome clone. I love the new browser and many others do as well. Another thread was started recently titled Paying My Respects so there are others posting here besides complainers. No doubt I'll be labelled as high-jacking this thread since I'm posting a contrary view but that is my privilege. I stand by Opera's new direction and encourage them to keep on the same path. Ultimately Opera will experience success as other... new users discover it. Sticking with an older browser which is a security risk (12.14 needs to be patched) is taking an unnecessary risk and saying that its features outweigh how slowly web pages load is ridiculous. A browser that can't load pages reasonably fast and stumbles on the most popular websites is not a browser that most would choose. Ergo: Opera Presto is dead. Deal with it.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        @leushino The best policy to deal with first time poster with a newly created account that crearly just came here to rant and/or to post a flamebait is to ignore them. Replying to them is, very often, just a waist of time and a fuel to the flame.

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                        • Deleted User
                          Deleted User last edited by

                          Sorry, Leo. I should have known better. You're quite right in your suggestion.

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            They will stop using Presto soon or later, Leushino.

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                            • noodles7
                              noodles7 last edited by

                              The later, the better.

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                              • joshl
                                joshl last edited by

                                No other browser, ever, has sound notifications.

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                                • what-is-this
                                  what-is-this last edited by

                                  Hmmm, I took a look at Leushino's profile and he has hundreds of posts with this same pattern "Opera Presto is dead. Deal with it." He never says anything constructive. And there are always leocg and sidney taking his side. I want to hear from them what kind of features new Opera has to offer to stand out more than any other Blink Chromium browser.

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                                  • blackbird71
                                    blackbird71 last edited by

                                    ... I want to hear from them what kind of features new Opera has to offer to stand out more than any other Blink Chromium browser.

                                    I thought the title of the thread was: "Which is the best version of Opera excluding anything past 12.17 and why?" Seems to me that calling for a discussion of features offered by "new Opera" in this thread is consciously going off-topic.

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                                    • Deleted User
                                      Deleted User last edited by

                                      Opera Blink has the best speed dial, discover, bookmarks Manager, does not have built-in Flash player, minimalistic interface, Opera turbo, tab large preview, keyboard shortcuts, bookmark sharing and mouse gestures, it is safer.

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        And there are always leocg and sidney taking his side.

                                        You seem to be reading the wrong posts. 🙂

                                        I want to hear from them what kind of features new Opera has to offer to stand out more than any other Blink Chromium browser.

                                        Speed Dial, Hidpi support, tab preview, tab menu, just to cite a few.

                                        Do i miss some Presto's features? Yes, i do. Does it prevent me from use Opera Blink? No, it doesn't.

                                        In fact i realized that many Presto features weren't so essential, at least for me, and were more to impress others than to be useful to majority of users imho.

                                        But the topic is for people to say why they keep using Opera Presto and not for them to say why they use Opera Blink. 🙂

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                                        • Deleted User
                                          Deleted User last edited by

                                          Hmmm, I took a look at Leushino's profile and he has hundreds of posts with this same pattern "Opera Presto is dead. Deal with it." He never says anything constructive. And there are always leocg and sidney taking his side. I want to hear from them what kind of features new Opera has to offer to stand out more than any other Blink Chromium browser.

                                          And who are you to just register a couple of days ago and check my profile? You're a disgruntled poster who has simply invented another profile to come back and create trouble. And as others have already said, you are "off-topic." I'm not going to answer your question although others have already done so. Indeed, today I posted a thread in which I commended the new browser regarding its new sharing bookmarks' feature. But again, that is off-topic so lets cut the personal attacks AND the trumped up, off-topic posts. "Nuff said?"

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                                          • shandra
                                            shandra last edited by

                                            In fact i realized that many Presto features weren't so essential, at least for me, and were more to impress others than to be useful to majority of users imho.

                                            Well, sadly this thread has turned into another OhOldGeeksYouShouldUnderstandByNowThatNowdaysMobile/Tabloid/Win8+Youngsters aren'tDesktopUsers(!)anymoreAndNoOneWantsToKnowWhatWorkRelatedBrowsingNeedsComparedToCasualLeasureSuitSkiming Rant vs. Presto since early posts (title indicates everything beyond O12.17 is off-topic)...

                                            But at the moment (and since some days) I am actually researching material for my diploma + having open a lot of python module manuals, lotsa stackexchange and similar help forums, etc. and without Notes, without Sessions, without Site Preferences and Panels like Links together with tab-stacking That would be a lot more hell then the PITA it already is!
                                            Without Presto I am not sure how I would handle all this multi-tasking, sorting, etc.
                                            And the real sad factor is, that there is no real alternative to Presto so far (Otter or Fifth may reach that in some time to come, but so far...)
                                            Oh I missed to include that my customized UI is full of FavIcons[Bookmarks]/SearchFields/etc. - so that I can open the most visited sites with just a click on the icon, etc. (Yeah Boys, since Amiga Times I am also one of those users who are really organizing their desktop icons and are utilizing them to fasten their workflow (like drop-target .bats and similiar besides simple shortcuts)

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