Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube - Is Opera going to go back to previous engine Presto

[mixchild]

mixchild last edited by

We Youtube is showing this message with Opera's built in adblocker so if chromium based browsers won't be able to have native adblocker on youtube would Opera go back to Presto engine?

[blackbird71]

blackbird71 last edited by

I think it's safe to say Opera is never going back to the Presto engine for its browsers. Far too much water has gone over the technological and organizational dams for that to happen.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @mixchild last edited by

@mixchild YouTube is blocking all adblockers

[myswtest]

myswtest last edited by myswtest

Strange indeed. No issues here with ad-blocker enabled and visiting YouTube / watching videos, plus no ads.
No pop-up warnings from YouTube.

Opera One (version: 103.0.4928.26)
Opera is up to date;  Update stream:Stable
System:Freedesktop.org SDK 22.08 (Flatpak runtime) 
(x86_64; KDE)
Chromium version:117.0.5938.150
[...]

Operating System: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20231013
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0
Qt Version: 5.15.11
Kernel Version: 6.5.6-1-default (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @myswtest last edited by

@myswtest The blocking isn't affecting everyone yet.

[mixchild]

mixchild @blackbird71 last edited by

@blackbird71 Opera has version called "Opera Neon" it would be great if it was working on Presto engine, cause other than Youtube starting to crack down on adblockers there are more reasons to start digging up presto engine, or at least implement it's features to default browser

[myswtest]

myswtest last edited by

From the Presto Wikipedia:

"Presto was the browser engine of the Opera web browser from the release of Opera 7 on 28 January 2003, until the release of Opera 15 on 2 July 2013, at which time Opera switched to using the Blink engine".

IMO, good move, ie., time to move on.

Presto-based applications
Web browsers
Opera
Opera 7 to 12
Opera Mobile 9.5 to 12
Opera Mini (continues to use Presto rendering on an intermediate server on keypad phones and as Extreme mode on Android devices)
Nintendo
Nintendo DS Browser (based on Opera)
Nintendo DSi Browser (based on Opera)
Wii Internet Channel Browser (based on Opera)

Nokia 770 Browser (based on Opera)
Sony Mylo COM-1's Browser (based on Opera)

[blackbird71]

blackbird71 @mixchild last edited by

@mixchild said in Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube - Is Opera going to go back to previous engine Presto:

@blackbird71 Opera has version called "Opera Neon" it would be great if it was working on Presto engine, cause other than Youtube starting to crack down on adblockers there are more reasons to start digging up presto engine, or at least implement it's features to default browser

Neon is also built upon the Blink rendering engine, as are all chromium-based browsers. All browsers (Blink or otherwise) must convert the data packets received from a website's server and convert (aka: render) them accurately into a screen display on the visiting computer that replicates the images and functionality that the website designers intended.

There are multiple ways to render a website's code, not all of them equally efficient or easy to maintain - and not all equally able to withstand idiosyncrasies continually being inserted into particular website coding techniques.

Consequently, different rendering engines may not always display a given website in the same way as one another or as the site designers intended (especially if they designed and tested the website with a particular rendering engine design in mind). As a result, maintaining a "minor" rendering engine design for maximum website compatibility over time quickly becomes a huge and costly effort.

Opera fought that battle constantly in its early years, increasingly with only mixed success. When sites aren't rendered properly, complaints flood the support lines of both the browser makers and the site designers. For that reason, Opera (and others) have elected to go with an existing major rendering engine design (Blink) developed and continually maintained by the Chromium Consortium - which brings us to now.

At this point, there's virtually no chance of going back to the pre-Blink days or its designs... the costs would simply be too great, and too many technological changes have since occurred.