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    Opera mail - some mails cannot be sended ! ????

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    • modus operandi
      modus operandi last edited by

      Platform : Opera Mail 1.0, build 1040, Win32 with OS Win8
      I have 2 messages in my outbox that I can not send. I tried time and again but to no avail.I can't find any reason; more specifically the adresses are all correct. Other messages can be sended without any problem.

      Any idea what could be the cause ?????

      I tried to find a log file for outgoing acivities but this seems not to exist in this mail-client.

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        The error console says anything?

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        • modus operandi
          modus operandi last edited by

          No, nothing. For a while there is the message : "sending messages" on the function bar, it disappears after a while and the 3 messages are still in the Outbox, unaltered.
          I deleted them to the garbage bin and brought them back and tried again to send them. To no avail.
          I deleted them definitely and wrote one of the messages - a forward - anew, To no avail 😞
          Other messages went through without problem !
          ????????

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            Anything different on the messages, like size, content, etc? Try checking the recipients' email addresses again.

            You can also try to enable logging to see if something shows up.

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            • modus operandi
              modus operandi last edited by

              The forwarding of an attachment of 3.2 MB to 36 recipients did not succeed, as I said. I bypassed this problem in the following way : I made up a new message with the attachment , thus not forwarding from the original, and send it to the recipients but in chunk of 12 addresses. The third sending to the last 12 did not succeed. I deleted 1 adres and the problem was solved. I then sended a 4th and last message to this very same address, without any problem !!!! ????

              For the other 2 messages to but 1 adress that didn't get through, I put the original message in a word file as attachment and did send it to the address now without any problem ! ?????

              And yes, I would like to enable and view logging but I do not see how to achieve this in this client. I do not find a line about logging in none of the prefs.ini files.

              ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                And yes, I would like to enable and view logging but I do not see how to achieve this in this client. I do not find a line about logging in none of the prefs.ini files.

                It's in accounts.ini. You need to add the line Outgoing Log File=X:\Path-to-Folder\logfile.txt.

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  The third sending to the last 12 did not succeed. I deleted 1 adres and the problem was solved. I then sended a 4th and last message to this very same address, without any problem !!!! ????

                  Maybe it was typed wrongly?

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                  • modus operandi
                    modus operandi last edited by

                    " Maybe it was typed wrongly? "

                    Not at all. I used copy/paste.

                    And today, another message, quite small to but 1 address , again stays put in the outbox and cannot be sended. 😞

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Are you sure the problem is on your end? Sometimes a network issue will prevent me from sending a message. Sometimes going to the Check/Send button immediately will send it, sometimes I have to wait for them to straighten up the problem - but it does send properly later.

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                        The Outgoing log will tell you what the error is. If an entry isn't created in the log when you send, that means Opera never got that far and the error happened before that (perhaps something failed a syntax test in the UI or something). In the latter case, you just have to use trial and error to see what you typed/entered in the compose tab and or what you attached causes it.

                        If you have anti-virus with an email scanner, turn the email scanner off.

                        Are you using a proxy (see internet options in the control panel. Look under Connection -> LAN Settings)?

                        Any backup utilities accessing Opera's files when you send? Any other security programs that might interfere with Opera?

                        Open "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts" in a text editor. Has anything modified that file. You should have no uncommented entries in there by default.

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                        • modus operandi
                          modus operandi last edited by

                          Thx for comments.
                          @sgunhouse : sure it is on my end. The last message is still in the outbox after 24 hrs.
                          @burnout : I'll try and follow suit. Thx.

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                          • modus operandi
                            modus operandi last edited by

                            @leocg who said "It's in accounts.ini. You need to add the line Outgoing Log File=X:\Path-to-Folder\logfile.txt."

                            To no avail. This added line is automatically deleted when starting Opera mail 😞
                            @burnout : I therefore cannot check what might have happened,

                            Sending the message to another adres is no problem. And the original address is abolutely without errors and in use since years.'

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              Have you edited the file with Opera closed ? You were able to save it.

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                              • modus operandi
                                modus operandi last edited by

                                "Have you edited the file with Opera closed ? " Of course
                                "You were able to save it ?" Yes. The file before editing was 2691 b; after editing it was 2777 b. But at the very moment Opera mail is started the file defaults to 2691 b,

                                This one ( rather Short ) message is still in the outbox while I had no one problem in sending some 10 other and different messages.
                                Thinking of it : the 2 messages that got stucked in the outbox were 2 'forwards'.

                                I'm now a Opera users since way more than 15 years and I keep wondering why it is that each "upgrade" time and again comes with bugs and problems. Why always change a winning team without toroughly checking it out first ??? I was quite happy with the combined browser-mail client that I used the last couple of years. And all of a sudden, with this bloody "automatic upgrade" I'm in the sh*t ! No longer is the mail combined with the browser, but there is this idiosyncratic error !! 😞
                                I think of downgrading to the previous client, but that is again a lot of work. And I'm not sure that it will be fluent, because I changed to a new PC and OS ( Win 7 => Win 8 ). Greetz.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  But at the very moment Opera mail is started the file defaults to 2691 b,

                                  There must be something very wrong with your install or with your OS. Or maybe a third part software is messing things up.

                                  Check on Help > About Opera Mail if you are editing the correct accounts.ini file. Also check if there isn't any programs that may be reverting the file to its original state.

                                  Try setting it as read-only after have made the changes.

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                                  • sgunhouse
                                    sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    You need to enter the line in the right place - in the section associated with the account you want to log. Actually the line may already be there - but without a path after the equals sign. Look for it.

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                                    • burnout426
                                      burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                                      Actually the line may already be there - but without a path after the equals sign.

                                      There's a note about that in http://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/m2tips/enable_logging.

                                      This added line is automatically deleted when starting Opera mail

                                      If you indeed put the line under the section for the account in question and you're editing the file while Opera is closed, it might have something to do with the path you're using. Maybe try a path that's under C: if you haven't yet. Specifically, try a path on your in your desktop like in the above link. Another thing you can try is to set the incoming log too as maybe that will prevent Opera from erasing the changes on you.

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