The questions related to Opera Link's backward compatibility(after the March,1 2014) and forums

  • I want to ask a distinguished representatives of the Opera Software ASA.
    Is there chance that after the end(shutting) of my.opera.com portal that the new Opera Link service will have backward compatibility with Opera web-browser (version 12.x and earlier)?

    And what about forums?

    / Original quote from http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/important-announcement-about-your-my-opera-account /
    "Our forums will be moved to www.opera.com later. The most important threads will be moved there and you can still use your My Opera account to log in and continue the discussion. In other words: Your My Opera account is now your new Opera account that you can use for all Opera services and products."

    Does it means that old threads related to an "old" Opera (that's big and still useful Opera's knowledge base actually) will be purged?

  • That's a very good question. What occurred in the heavy reworking of the Opera website early in 2013 resulted in the loss of a great deal of Old Opera detailed information files (settings, etc) that are now only recoverable via searching the Internet-archives sites. There is a lot of Old Opera information and explanation in some of these forum threads that apparently exist nowhere else. I realize Old Opera is headed for obsolescence... but once the supporting data has been blown away, it's then too late for those still needing to use it for whatever reasons to track down answers to their questions. Granted, Opera ASA has no obligation to house or make available this information after Old Opera is completely unsupported, but it would nevertheless be a nice gesture to users on the part of the company if they did find a spare nook or cranny on their server farms to store it (and the Opera documentation files that used to be on their website, if they have copies), with a public link to all that. Please?

  • Afaik, Link will work (almost) as today.

  • Originally posted by LeoCG:

    Afaik, Link will work (almost) as today.

    Link service is connected with a my.opera account, isn't?

  • Originally posted by STNG:

    Link service is connected with a my.opera account, isn't?

    Yep, and afaik you will still be able to use your login and password to access Link.

  • Well, i bet that the Opera Link compatibility (with Opera/Presto) won't be terminated at least until Opera-Chromium got the working Opera link function.
    But what about forum archives?

  • Google (among others) archive everything ... does Opera Software need to? Maybe we (users) should archive the more interesting (to Opera 12.x) discussions to the wiki though ...

  • Originally posted by STNG:

    But what about forum archives?

    Afaik the forums will be moved to another place. Just don't know if they will move the entire forum or just part of it.

  • Originally posted by LeoCG:

    Originally posted by STNG:

    But what about forum archives?

    Afaik the forums will be moved to another place. Just don't know if they will move the entire forum or just part of it.

    "The most important threads will be moved there and you can still use your My Opera account to log in and continue the discussion."

    Does it means that all old threads will be deleted? That's the question.

  • Well, i don't know what they call important. A very old topic can be more important than a new one.

  • As of late, and especially the threads that relate to technical aspects of Old Opera versions, their users would tend to think "old topics" might indeed be the more important ones. The nuggets of information embedded in some of them simply can't be found anywhere else, eg: how to truly disable mouse-flipbacks and flipforwards in Old Opera - the only correct information I've ever found lives in 2 or 3 old forum threads here.

  • The end date is coming. Bump.

  • Originally posted by blackbird71:

    how to truly disable mouse-flipbacks and flipforwards in Old Opera - the only correct information I've ever found lives in 2 or 3 old forum threads here

    It also lives in my head - that isn't going away. The question is ... what they ought to do is actually create a "legacy support" forum as part of the new forums - collect the Opera 12 info all in one place. Will they?

  • So, i guess we (a Presto's users) should save as many valuable content as possible. We have to consider the bad scenario (everything erased with exception of Chropera's releated topics).

  • Originally posted by STNG:

    So, i guess we (a Presto's users) should save as many valuable content as possible. We have to consider the bad scenario (everything erased with exception of Chropera's releated topics).

    I would suggest starting sooner, rather than later. In another thread just the other day here where someone was asking about ways to deal with 12.16's inability to keep a custom default search engine's selection preserved across an Opera session restart, I was about to respond with a link to a posting made months earlier from another Opera user containing a useful suggestion. But I suddenly discovered that the link failed and the referenced post was gone - entirely - as were all other posts by that user, except for those text portions quoted in other posters' responses. At first, when I used the forum search engine and it failed to pull up a reference that I just "knew" had to be there, it made me wonder if I was dreaming. Then I remembered having saved the gist of the missing user's post in a text file... I searched my own archives, and there it was so that I was able to supply the information. But it highlighted the issue of disappearing legitimate information and data that will only worsen once these forums are rebuilt.

    There are probably a number of reasons why a poster and all his contributions to the forum might simply disappear, but when at least some of those posts contain original and constructive suggestions and information, the data loss to other users is real and essentially forever... at least in terms of forum-search-box visibility.

    I don't mean to pour cold water on our hopes or impugn Opera's future plans for these forums, but after seeing a bunch of Old Opera data/helps pages and information built up over years of work simply evaporate from Opera's sites last Spring, I am very apprehensive about the possibilities of what might happen with the data, sometimes deeply embedded within obscure or even controversial threads, in these forums. The problem for us as users trying to archive the data is how to find and save key information while there's still time... the forums constitute a very large data ocean, only some of it worthwhile saving for future helps.

  • Originally posted by blackbird71:

    ... the forums constitute a very large data ocean, only some of it worthwhile saving for future helps.

    And to further complicate things, so much useless noise has infected the forums that finding the useful information is becoming increasingly difficult. 😞

  • Originally posted by leushino:

    Originally posted by blackbird71:

    ... the forums constitute a very large data ocean, only some of it worthwhile saving for future helps.

    And to further complicate things, so much useless noise has infected the forums that finding the useful information is becoming increasingly difficult. 😞

    It may yet become a manifestation of the Law of Unintended Consequences: tons of noisy and rude forum complaints from Old Opera users that contribute to (and are used to justify) the elimination of all forum reference material about Old Opera as soon as (if not before) Old Opera is declared officially unsupported... leaving the Old Opera users even worse off than otherwise. I guess we'll just have to see how this all turns out... :insane:

  • I've posted before ... what needs to be done is to update the only remaining reference for Presto - the Oprera wiki - as much as possible. It is a wiki, so just register and add anything you can think of.

  • Originally posted by sgunhouse:

    I've posted before ... what needs to be done is to update the only remaining reference for Presto - the Oprera wiki - as much as possible. It is a wiki, so just register and add anything you can think of.

    Sorry - somehow I missed that suggestion up above. It's a good idea!

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