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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      Well, i don't know what they call important. A very old topic can be more important than a new one.

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      • blackbird71
        blackbird71 last edited by

        As of late, and especially the threads that relate to technical aspects of Old Opera versions, their users would tend to think "old topics" might indeed be the more important ones. The nuggets of information embedded in some of them simply can't be found anywhere else, eg: how to truly disable mouse-flipbacks and flipforwards in Old Opera - the only correct information I've ever found lives in 2 or 3 old forum threads here.

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        • stng
          stng last edited by

          The end date is coming. Bump.

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          • sgunhouse
            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            Originally posted by blackbird71:

            how to truly disable mouse-flipbacks and flipforwards in Old Opera - the only correct information I've ever found lives in 2 or 3 old forum threads here

            It also lives in my head - that isn't going away. The question is ... what they ought to do is actually create a "legacy support" forum as part of the new forums - collect the Opera 12 info all in one place. Will they?

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            • stng
              stng last edited by

              So, i guess we (a Presto's users) should save as many valuable content as possible. We have to consider the bad scenario (everything erased with exception of Chropera's releated topics).

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              • blackbird71
                blackbird71 last edited by

                Originally posted by STNG:

                So, i guess we (a Presto's users) should save as many valuable content as possible. We have to consider the bad scenario (everything erased with exception of Chropera's releated topics).

                I would suggest starting sooner, rather than later. In another thread just the other day here where someone was asking about ways to deal with 12.16's inability to keep a custom default search engine's selection preserved across an Opera session restart, I was about to respond with a link to a posting made months earlier from another Opera user containing a useful suggestion. But I suddenly discovered that the link failed and the referenced post was gone - entirely - as were all other posts by that user, except for those text portions quoted in other posters' responses. At first, when I used the forum search engine and it failed to pull up a reference that I just "knew" had to be there, it made me wonder if I was dreaming. Then I remembered having saved the gist of the missing user's post in a text file... I searched my own archives, and there it was so that I was able to supply the information. But it highlighted the issue of disappearing legitimate information and data that will only worsen once these forums are rebuilt.

                There are probably a number of reasons why a poster and all his contributions to the forum might simply disappear, but when at least some of those posts contain original and constructive suggestions and information, the data loss to other users is real and essentially forever... at least in terms of forum-search-box visibility.

                I don't mean to pour cold water on our hopes or impugn Opera's future plans for these forums, but after seeing a bunch of Old Opera data/helps pages and information built up over years of work simply evaporate from Opera's sites last Spring, I am very apprehensive about the possibilities of what might happen with the data, sometimes deeply embedded within obscure or even controversial threads, in these forums. The problem for us as users trying to archive the data is how to find and save key information while there's still time... the forums constitute a very large data ocean, only some of it worthwhile saving for future helps.

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  Originally posted by blackbird71:

                  ... the forums constitute a very large data ocean, only some of it worthwhile saving for future helps.

                  And to further complicate things, so much useless noise has infected the forums that finding the useful information is becoming increasingly difficult. 😞

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                  • blackbird71
                    blackbird71 last edited by

                    Originally posted by leushino:

                    Originally posted by blackbird71:

                    ... the forums constitute a very large data ocean, only some of it worthwhile saving for future helps.

                    And to further complicate things, so much useless noise has infected the forums that finding the useful information is becoming increasingly difficult. 😞

                    It may yet become a manifestation of the Law of Unintended Consequences: tons of noisy and rude forum complaints from Old Opera users that contribute to (and are used to justify) the elimination of all forum reference material about Old Opera as soon as (if not before) Old Opera is declared officially unsupported... leaving the Old Opera users even worse off than otherwise. I guess we'll just have to see how this all turns out... :insane:

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      I've posted before ... what needs to be done is to update the only remaining reference for Presto - the Oprera wiki - as much as possible. It is a wiki, so just register and add anything you can think of.

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                      • blackbird71
                        blackbird71 last edited by

                        Originally posted by sgunhouse:

                        I've posted before ... what needs to be done is to update the only remaining reference for Presto - the Oprera wiki - as much as possible. It is a wiki, so just register and add anything you can think of.

                        Sorry - somehow I missed that suggestion up above. It's a good idea!

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