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  • @boonstra apologies - somehow the ";" got included in the URL and it's a furphy - this should work [https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-mail-technical-preview/](link url)

  • @arobbo

    It sucks (

    Like others here I've been an operamail user since day one and it's a bit like having a limb removed to lose my email address this way.
    I'm even more annoyed since I've only recently paid fastmail for two more years use of their service. I doubt they'll offer a refund if I decide not to continue.

  • @hughmar said in Operamail future?:

    I've only recently paid fastmail for two more years use of their service. I doubt they'll offer a refund if I decide not to continue.

    They might. They're pretty awesome at Fastmail.

  • @burnout426 -> Agree, and the service of Fastmail is quite OK. I had a little issue with Outblaze in the past, but that's it.

    Still some things are strange, i know of 3 people using Operamail. Just one has gotten such a mail. Personally I did not receive such a mail of unilateral stopping service...

    Then the other thing i'm very curious about, how many operamail users are left ?

  • @boonstra I would assume there are quite a few of us - the operamail address has cachet which means those who have it want to hang on to it. It's my main email address and I would very much prefer stay put. OK so I've got a couple of years to move over to somewhereelsenotexactlywhatIwanted@anon.com but why break something that has worked perfectly well since time almost immemorial. There must be other solutions.

    I tend to agree with the suggestion that this is a test run to gauge resistance - after all if the perpetrators were serious about it, then every single operamail account holder would have received the same email. And I can't believe it is that difficult to make alternative arrangements to continue with this email address.

  • I have hunted around for other threads with operamail but cannot find any. As a long time Opera user, I also signed up, many years ago, to operamail. This service was hived off and is currently operated by fastmail (an Australian company).

    I am very well satisfied with the service. Unfortunately fastmail have recently advised me that they will not be able to renew my subscription because Opera is taking back the operamail address.

    I can see nothing here concerning this. I amvery keen to retain my current operamail e-mail address so would like to know what, if any are your plans in this respect?

  • @admiralty Must not have looked too hard - there was a discussion started a couple of weeks ago on this. Let me see ... merged with existing thread.

  • @sgunhouse thanks for putting me right. I don't pretend to be an adept of these forums, but I did search quite widely, using both operamail and opera mail. In any case, the important step seems to me to identify whichever of the splintered parts of Opera now hold the operamail domain so that they can explain what they propose.

    The suggestion that whoever it is wants to protect the opera brand doesn't wash with me. I would guess that most/many of the operamail users are also long time opera users and that, having been happy when opera chose fastmail as partner in place of its German predecessor they/we cherish the quality of the combined/linked services.

    Any suggestions on who to contact and how?

  • @admiralty No idea, sorry. Like you, unsure which Opera you'd need to deal with.

  • @sgunhouse

    The message I've received from Fastmail is unequivocal, there is no chance whatever that Operamail addresses will be returning to use. The fact that not all Operamail account holders have received an email informing them of the withdrawal of the address is not because Fastmail is testing the water. Instead they are informing account holders in batches so that they don't have to deal with responses all at once.

    As with another poster, I suspect there's a political agenda involved here as nothing else would seem to explain the unwillingness of the Chinese company that owns the Opera browser and domain to hand administration of Operamail addresses to another party. The email address itself has long since lost any association with the Opera browser so there's no way that Operamail can be accused of tainting the "brand".

    Operamail was a good email address to have while it lasted, but a change is as good as a rest and I've decided to run with it.

  • @alphaville Noted, but i'm not quite willing to throw in the towel just yet. I had a similar battle with compuserve before I moved to operamail. While I eventually lost that, I did get pointed to a work round which allowed me to retain my ancient (numeric) compuserve mailbox for a further year or two
    In the case of operamail I figure it is just as likely to be an unthinking screw up, as to be part of a machiavellian plot.
    i'll keep this forum informed if I make any progress. I remain open to any suggestions as to who to contact.

  • @admiralty -> Yeah, ditto here, when I made a mailadres in august 1998, there was no limitation. Also for the "hotmail" there was no expiry date. Conditions were the same.

    Moving from Opera, to Outblaze, to Opera again, and to Fastmail, it's possible there was a "small print" in the conditions, about ending usage... But I doubt it.

    This would be similar to owning a website, this cannot be withdrawn just because somebody else wants it. How did your fight for the xxx@SC-com go ? Legal advise ?

    @sgunhouse -> Possible users will be informed in batches, to prevent overload of complains, but I think there will be a max of 1000 operamail-owners nowadays ?

  • I emailed Fastmail service regarding these matters, providing links to both this thread and the similar points made in comments on the Vivaldi (mail) blog. They were nice in pointing out the difference between "email service/provider" like Fastmail, and "email client", as Vivaldi would provide. Dashed hopes there for my idealism.

    Unfortunately as to my request for number of operamail.com account holders, a flat refusal: "...we take our customer's privacy and security very seriously. As such I cannot answer give you this information."
    Obviously I am not interested in individual account information, but apparently even a ballpark figure might be "commercial-in-confidence". Who knew?
    I didn't even ask if Fastmail could offer a redirection service to honour their operamail.com stakeholders. I kept my original "fastmail.fm" account when then pushed for everyone to change to "fastmail.com" several years ago. I know of others who also preferred and kept the unique "fm" address (?). I wonder whether a corresponding redirection could have been introduced (e.g, old operamail.com = new 0p3r4m41l.com (in leet))? Just spitballing, obviously I have no expertise in the matter.

  • @arobbo You'd need to own the name to put a redirector there.

  • @sgunhouse Thanks for the clarification, and thanks to @arobbo for your input. In general I am all in favour of fastmail's strict approach to privacy, but in our case it works against us, firstly since we can't get a handle on how many we are, and secondly because they might have offered a means of getting in contact with those responsible. Thus far, I have had no joy in trying to get in contact with either Opera Software ASA, who, I believe, own the operamail domain, or Golden Brick Capital Private Equity, who I believe, effectively own Opera Software. I'll give it a week or two more

  • @horseshrink

    also check this link in another Opera forum:

    @horseshrink said in Operamail future?:

    @rif Opera is now owned by a Chinese investment consortium. FastMail is Australian. I wonder if evolving trade tensions between the two countries is a factor.

    https://www.engadget.com/2016-07-18-opera-browser-sold-to-a-chinese-consortium-for-600-million.html

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-trade-china-commodities-tim/timeline-tension-between-china-and-australia-over-commodities-trade-idUSKBN28L0D8

    See also this thread in the Opera for Linux forum. Might be user error or might be something else...

    https://forums.opera.com/topic/47572/chinese-takeover-of-my-opera-on-ubuntu-18?_=1617717118702

  • @alphaville Definitely batches, received my email from Fastmail today. I have my own demain name but still happy using @opermail.com

  • I have been using Opera since 1997, my email account was first created when Operamail was still managed by Opera. Fastmail has just advise that I will need to change the domain on my email address as they will no longer support or administer the operamail.com domain.

    I do not want to change it, will Opera offer email services in the future? Even it comes with a cost I would rather keep it as it is

  • @ealatorre Opera stopped offering an email service about a decade ago and there are no indications that they will start providing it again. Opera seems to be now focused in making browsers.

  • @ealatorre

    I don't think there's the slightest chance of an @operamail.com address being available beyond the middle of next year. I'm happy to move away as despite the effort involved there are advantages. Moving away gives users the chance to renew or delete user accounts, logins, passwords and all the rest. The move away should reduce spam emails to a trickle once spam arrives at a defunct address. The vast majority of the spam email I receive is a consequence of hacks to Adobe and the like in the early 2010s. I'm looking forward to all this idiot crap slamming into a dead-end come June 21.

    Even though I have 500+ operamail related addresses to move over to another address I'm finding that the process of updating logins has been worth the effort. There are plenty of usernames I don't need any more. And it's interesting to see how many companies take GDPR seriously, You know they do when you find they've deleted your user account information after a year or so without a log-in. And which other "service providers" can't even deal with a change in email address! I'll be taking my leave of these.

    There's no way I'm going to feel aggrieved for the loss of a particular email address. It's inconvenient but so is much of life. I'd be more worried about the demolition of an ancient building but at the end of the day an email address is simply an electronic tag of slight consequence.

    If I'm correct in suspecting that this is one of many overtures in future cyber hostilities to come then that only increases the incentive to move on from all things Opera related including the browser. I assume the new owners don't give two hoots for the preoccupations of Western users and that their attention is and will be entirely focused on the home market. Opera was good while it lasted, now is the time to move on.