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Can Opera browser desktop add options for tab hibernation and tab grouping for heavy users in-built?

  • Can Opera browser desktop add options for tab hibernation and tab grouping for heavy users in-built?

    I use the Opera browser on many devices for my official work but while using many tabs like in the image attached below I cant maintain tabs properly and they all take the active memory and battery and space of tabs. Chrome has brought tab grouping, Vivaldi has tab hibernation process like
    The Great Suspender extension. But can opera add it within the browser without any need for extensions for productive users?

    opera browser desktop tab listing Screenshot 2020.jpg

  • @ROCKKER-55 Regarding tabs group, you can try Workspaces.

    And Chromium discards tabs that are kept in background for some time.

  • @leocg said in Can Opera browser desktop add options for tab hibernation and tab grouping for heavy users in-built?:

    Workspaces don't help much. It doesn't explain what it is. Neither it is like a tab container like firefox where each session is different and isn't in relation to any other nor it is a session manager as it overlaps and mixes everything. I tried it many times but avoided it ever since.

    And for "And Chromium discards tabs that are kept in the background for some time." I don't understand why you are focused on Chromium when I am using opera which has its own mechanism and structure different from chrome, or brave, or even Vivaldi. I requested something you didn't understand maybe you arent using opera as much as I am across on any platform for work. I have to take the help of firefox which does provide some sense of support to power users and even google understood it through chrome tab grouping. Opera team doesn't understand it, old users.

    The saddest part is that there is no such addon in opera store that does give control to users about tab suspension or hibernation without closing them and letting them keep it the way they were before the closing of the browser. And those that exist are outdated, not updated, or lose all the tabs. Firefox has created many extensions to support users by themselves. Opera should also have done it apart from the default adblocker and VPN both of which doesn't do the job as promoted.

  • @ROCKKER-55 Opera is a Chromium based browser like Chrome, Edge, Vivaldi and many others.

  • @leocg I think you are not reading anything I posted here. Just keeping only with what you want to say irrespective of the conversation. Go and use browsers you say as they have the features I just mentioned. Even chrome is based on Chromium engine.

  • @ROCKKER-55

    https://forums.opera.com/topic/44814/opera-refreshing-pages-automatically-if-background-tab-left-for-a-certain-time/

    In that topic, some people are complaining exactly of a behavior that seems very similar to one of the suggestions you made above.

  • @leocg I never saw it in the settings or in the options when right click is done on any tabs like in vivaldi I can do same and enable hibernate tab option for that tab or multiples. I dont know from where you are telling that tab hibernate or suspension option exists. I am using opera since opera wasnt opera at all.

  • @ROCKKER-55 It's a default Chromium behavior since a few versions ago.

    There is no setting.

  • @leocg said in Can Opera browser desktop add options for tab hibernation and tab grouping for heavy users in-built?:

    It's a default Chromium behavior since a few versions ago.

    What has "It's a default Chromium behavior since a few versions ago." has to do with this?

  • @ROCKKER-55 Chromium discards tabs that are in background, what is basically the same as putting them in hibernation.

    See https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/comments/jow8l6/how_to_disable_autorefresh_on_tabs/

  • Tab-grouping like in Vivaldi would certainly help to manage huge amounts of open tabs, work spaces are too limited in that regard. In fact Opera had such a feature in the past....

  • Why people do like to copy Vivaldi solutions here I do not understand. Use the damn Vivaldi if you so much cherish and like, not paying real attention to the Workspaces solution. Stacking in Vivaldi is the least productive option I've met for many years.

    Workspaces are far more visionary and efficient than the ungainly Vivaldi's Stack. But one has to have the deep need to use Opera with all it offers (as it is now), not turning to another wishful thinking list and trying to change Opera into Vivaldi Bis.

  • @pavelopdev said in Can Opera browser desktop add options for tab hibernation and tab grouping for heavy users in-built?:

    Why people do like to copy Vivaldi solutions here I do not understand. Use the damn Vivaldi if you so much cherish and like, not paying real attention to the Workspaces solution. Stacking in Vivaldi is the least productive option I've met for many years.

    Workspaces are far more visionary and efficient than the ungainly Vivaldi's Stack. But one has to have the deep need to use Opera with all it offers (as it is now), not turning to another wishful thinking list and trying to change Opera into Vivaldi Bis.

    Vivaldi are far from the first to have tab stacking/grouping though, hell Opera had it themselves back in version 11.0. It's really not about copying their features, it's about implementing useful features to enhance the browser (and something Opera once had). Opera's old implementation was also quite a bit different from Vivaldi's using a collapsible design to show only the active tab with a small arrow button next to it to expand the rest of the group, have a look at this image below I just took using Opera 12.18 for what it looked like with tabs in both horizontal and vertical positions (something Opera is still sorely missing and a killer feature for me) -

    image_2020-11-23_154309.png Opera.png

    Also if you enable popup thumbnails when hovering over a tab you could quickly & easily view all the tabs in the group and switch between them by clicking their thumbnail without having to expand the stack. Vivaldi does this as well which is its implementations only saving grace that actually makes it usable, they just need to improve the design of the tab groups in the tab bar which is just terrible and pales to old Opera's collapsible design.

    And while workspaces is indeed a very useful feature you cannot argue that tab stacking like this wouldn't also be very useful in its own right, both can easily co-exist and work together to complement the user experience in different ways. The existence of workspaces is no reason not to implement such tab stacking.

  • @sevic I fully agree with your points. I'm very thankful for your thorough explanations, as well. Yes, I overlooked the old Opera stacks, albeit I used the browser back in Time fascinated by "multi window canvass" solution (sort of tiles).

    What worries me deeply is the "Bond's standard procedure" aka answer from Opera forums main moderator - "if Chromium has it so Opera will have". Substitute his words with whatever you like (expletives are allowable).

  • @sevic said in Can Opera browser desktop add options for tab hibernation and tab grouping for heavy users in-built?:

    tabs in both horizontal and vertical positions

    By the way, Edge has implemented smth. similar (most probably recently).
    It offers tabs grouping (as far I know this is Chromium's default feature) + horizontal tabs feature. Each group can have its own color/name and also collapsable.
    2020-11-23_140127.png

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