Opera stable 70 - news

[l33t4opera]

l33t4opera last edited by

The first Opera stable 70.0.3728.71 is here ;-)
The change log and the announcement.
 
Some improvements:
- History and bookmark panel
The history and bookmark panels in Opera’s sidebar now have a wider search field, making it easier to find history items and specific bookmarks.
- Search in Tabs – tab content
Now is much easier and more intuitive to find the tab you want. Beyond searching through URLs and tab titles, matching text from tab content is also included.
 
New Opera's flags:
#handle-abp-protocol (enabled - ready to use)
#smart-files (disabled - work in progress)

Opera's flags enabled in this build:
#sync-passphrase-papercuts
#search-in-closed-tabs
#search-text-in-tabs

Removed flags: #bookmarks-panel, #opera-doh, #history-panel, #search-in-open-tabs and #sidebar-extensions-in-browser-sidebar.
 
Chromium is updated to version 84.0.4147.89 - also important security update.
 
   

[atomicthumbs]

atomicthumbs last edited by atomicthumbs

Where is the flag to switch back to the vertical tab cycler? The design of the horizontal one is completely unusable if you have a lot of tabs! If it's gone I'm going to have to switch to another web browser!

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @atomicthumbs last edited by

@atomicthumbs The flag was removed since it's no longer necessary, once the experiment has ended.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

@leocg said in Opera stable 70 - news:

once the experiment has ended

And it was really successful?
The feature had 2 crashes recently, 1 is fixed recently just before the Stable release, 2nd is still there.
Still no dark mode. Even the tip is not correct 'Search for open tabs', but it should be 'Search for tabs' because it also looks for recently closed tabs. The feature is 'raw' and they removed the flag already (taking into account that they most probably in course about all the negative on forum and in the blog).

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Yes, the flag/feature was enabled in stable channel and, therefore, the flag was removed.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg There's a bunch of flags that are enabled by default in Stable but sill exist.

But I'm talking here about the particular flag, how they decide that the feature is stable, ready, successful and now it's time to remove the flag if the feature causes crashes and doesn't have the dark mode yet (while the Ctrl+Tab cycler does).

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Yes, there is. But it seems to me that now they are trying to remove a flag once it gets enabled in stable channel.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 The feature is ready and does what it is supposed to do. Eventual issues will be deal in bug fixing.

[atomicthumbs]

atomicthumbs @leocg last edited by

@leocg So it's supposed to degrade the user experience by being slow to operate and slow to use, and having an inferior (less information-dense and navigable) design to the vertical tab cycler? This is a failed experiment. Nobody wants this.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @atomicthumbs last edited by

@atomicthumbs It's supposed to allow users to search their tabs and that's what it does.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

@leocg said in Opera stable 70 - news:

The feature is ready

Crashes and inconsistency with the browser's other UI in dark mode tell that the feature is not ready (also cut functionality comparing to the previous TabMenu).

*Maybe it can be said that the 'Weather' feature is ready for example (moreover the feature can be simply turned off in Settings) , but the flag is not removed as you can see. The same is with 'Instagram' flag (extremely 'useful' flag I can say).

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 I guess some flags are simply forgotten but they are removed at some point.

[tapedi2471]

tapedi2471 @leocg last edited by

@atomicthumbs It's supposed to allow users to search their tabs and that's what it does.

You don't even understand what feature he's talking about.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg Very strange, there are many flags still persist in Stable (workspaces, sidebar related and other), but they remove almost most recent flag for the feature that has quite a lot of complaints.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @tapedi2471 last edited by

@tapedi2471 It seems that you didn't understand what is being discussed.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Same answer as above. And remember that the ones working on one are not necessarily the ones working on the others.

[tapedi2471]

tapedi2471 @leocg last edited by

@tapedi2471 It seems that you didn't understand what is being discussed.

You are a moderator and you aren't even trying to understand the messages you are replying to. Even when your mistake is explicitly pointed out, you just deflect it. atomicthumbs is talking about tab cycler, not about search in tabs/recently closed.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @tapedi2471 last edited by

@tapedi2471 Vertical tab cycler was tabs menu, replaced in Opera 69 with search in tabs. In Opera 69, while the new feature were still being tested, you cloud disable it and return to tabs menu by turning off the search in tabs flags.
In Opera 70, with the ending of the testing period, the flag was removed and tabs menu no longer can be returned and, therefore, vertical tabs cycler.

So, yes, the discussion is/was abou the search in tabs feature.

[tapedi2471]

tapedi2471 @leocg last edited by

@leocg Tab cycler is what you get when you press Ctrl+Tab.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @tapedi2471 last edited by

@tapedi2471 I know. Before, you could choose to use tabs menu to cycle tabs when using Ctrl + Tab.