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  • @leocg Ok but we, the few users of it, were using it extensively, so it's very frustrating to have one of our favorite features removed. If it's not that popular, they should make it an option, and if it's really that unpopular, at least a flag or an extension. No, really, we're all here because opera is a feature-rich software, otherwise we would be on chrome. So it's not a problem if all the features are not used by everyone. For me this update is only bringing disadvantages, and I have hope that the developers can listen to us and bring back this feature that has no downside at all (except using a few MB of code).

  • @diegosdf Unfortunately, this is not how things work in the real world. Sometimes keeping a feature that very few people use may not worth the cost.

  • instant search is gone. We want it back it was outstanding feature that you failed to promote to people and not telling us that it was less used that ctr+shift+x to close opera 😕

  • @misterdoge Like I said before, having an option is not always an option. Keeping a feature has to worth the cost of doing it.

  • I read W3C picture-in-picture API documentation, so I think it's possible to allow how many pop-out video window do you want: "3.8. One Picture-in-Picture window
    Operating systems with a Picture-in-Picture API usually restrict Picture-in-Picture mode to only one window. Whether only one window is allowed in Picture-in-Picture mode will be left to the implementation and the platform. However, because of the one Picture-in-Picture window limitation, the specification assumes that a given Document can only have one Picture-in-Picture window.

    What happens when there is a Picture-in-Picture request while a window is already in Picture-in-Picture will be left as an implementation detail: the current Picture-in-Picture window could be closed, the Picture-in-Picture request could be rejected or even two Picture-in-Picture windows could be created. Regardless, the User Agent will have to fire the appropriate events in order to notify the website of the Picture-in-Picture status changes."

  • @kened No need to post the same thing more than once.

  • @leocg the features was already implemented, actually , when you guys removed you put extra cost. I know how things works... I just think you guys need to understand what customers wants. removing opera, no sense to keep using it. thx

  • @diegosdf That extra cost may be lower than the cost of keeping the feature.

    And I don't think that understanding what users want is necessarily the same of doing what you want. Opera always try to understand what users want, that's why they are always trying to add new things and changing others.

  • @leocg: 👍

  • @ab-garcez

    I also miss the top right drop-down menu.

    you can still have it just disable opera://flags#search-in-open-tabs

    @leocg @diegosdf

    Sometimes keeping a feature that very few people use may not worth the cost.

    I understand this "costs", but opera is an innovative browser right? instant search was a super innovative feature. they should be improving it more, not dropping it. I prefer opera to see this feature as something they can promote for more people to use. they give up too quickly.

    problem is what kind of user base they are aiming right now? if the quality of that user base will determine the features in the future and if opera choose to make a browser for more average user it makes me a bit worry because I don't know how innovative and feature-rich it can get with this approach. this is why I think they need to keep listening to some of their users who demand more capability and practical design.

    I believe more advance user base what opera needs. for promoting itself, defending itself against haters, etc. if you give me a good product that I really believe and feel like I'm a part of, I'll promote it and defend it.

  • @leocg Sir, i'm rename history file in profile but problem can't solve. so what to do now????

  • @SilentHugOfDoom said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

    @ab-garcez

    I also miss the top right drop-down menu.

    you can still have it just disable opera://flags#search-in-open-tabs

    @leocg @diegosdf

    Sometimes keeping a feature that very few people use may not worth the cost.

    I understand this "costs", but opera is an innovative browser right? instant search was a super innovative feature. they should be improving it more, not dropping it. I prefer opera to see this feature as something they can promote for more people to use. they give up too quickly.

    problem is what kind of user base they are aiming right now? if the quality of that user base will determine the features in the future and if opera choose to make a browser for more average user it makes me a bit worry because I don't know how innovative and feature-rich it can get with this approach. this is why I think they need to keep listening to some of their users who demand more capability and practical design.

    I believe more advance user base what opera needs. for promoting itself, defending itself against haters, etc. if you give me a good product that I really believe and feel like I'm a part of, I'll promote it and defend it.

    Thanks for the words. You said everything. @leocg bring those words to the development team. It seems to arrogant to simply ignore the facts.

  • @SilentHugOfDoom Every software is (or should be at least) an innovative software.
    If enough people were using it, then Opera surely could have been improving the feature. However, it's not the caae, so it's not worth keep developing it, I guess.

  • @SilentHugOfDoom I believe that there is only one user base: Those who use the internet.
    There isn't such thing as an advanced user or an average user, there are simply users, that may have different needs.

  • @saam Sorry, no idea.

  • @leocg ok sir

    thanks for your support.

  • @leocg Well I understand the need to only keep features that bring value, but I would really like to directly ask the software team to reconsider their decision for instant search because it's a feature that could bring users if it was promoted (because it's so f*king awesome!). So does the development team read the forums or is there a more direct way to contact them?

  • @misterdoge They read the forum. You can also contact Opera through their social networks if you want.

  • @leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

    @misterdoge They read the forum. You can also contact Opera through their social networks if you want.

    You are inside. Help us bringing their attention to the subject. thx

  • @misterdoge said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

    @leocg Well I understand the need to only keep features that bring value, but I would really like to directly ask the software team to reconsider their decision for instant search because it's a feature that could bring users if it was promoted (because it's so f*king awesome!). So does the development team read the forums or is there a more direct way to contact them?

    I was forced to move back to version 67... sad but true.