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    • senix
      senix @leocg last edited by

      @leocg
      Thx. It is 馃槈

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      • senix
        senix @senix last edited by

        @senix
        One more in german
        https://www.drwindows.de/news/bericht-opera-steckt-angeblich-in-ernsten-rechtlichen-schwierigkeiten

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          https://investor.opera.com/news-releases/news-release-details/opera-limited-announces-third-quarter-2019-financial-results

          Opera's third quarter (2019) results.

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          • blackbird71
            blackbird71 @senix last edited by

            @senix The accusations made against Opera's four Fintech loan apps in the Hindenburg Research report are quite serious, both in their asserted impact on African/Indian customers and for their reputational damage directed at Opera. If the accusations are indeed unfounded, one would certainly expect Opera to take rapid legal action against Hindenburg.

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/01/19/opera-predatory-loans/

              This was the last straw. After reading the article linked above, I decided to remove opera from all my devices. It's sad a once well regarded company has sunk so low to this level. It should come as no surprise. Ever since the company was sold to a Chinese consortium, it has never been the same. I'm wary of using any product from companies owned by people or entities based in China. Opera ceased to be a Norwegian company when it was sold many years ago. This is now owned and run by the Chinese. You see the result as in almost every other product coming out of China. Had been using Opera browsers for well over 15 years. In the last several years, however, I had been using it less and less. There are other worthy options. I don't see any need for Opera on my systems anymore. The offered VPN is a joke.

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              • senix
                senix @blackbird71 last edited by

                I cannot and do not want to say or comment on this. As a private user I found Opera to be a good browser. However, since I had to realize that the VPN is not secure and data is published here that allegedly cannot be read over VPN, I decided long ago not to use the VPN of Opera anymore.

                Everything else, should Opera feel publicly attacked here, the company management will have it clarified by its legal department.
                The individual user has no influence on this.

                It's a pity that such takeovers have to take place at all, because in these cases it's all about pure profit and profit maximization ...

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                • zalex108
                  zalex108 @senix last edited by

                  @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                  VPN is not secure and data is published here

                  馃 ?

                  "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                  • senix
                    senix @Guest last edited by

                    @scam-buster said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                    .... There are other worthy options. I don't see any need for Opera on my systems anymore. The offered VPN is a joke.

                    True. My conviction, or opinion, too.

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                    • senix
                      senix @zalex108 last edited by

                      @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                      @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                      VPN is not secure and data is published here

                      Please read correctly what I wrote before 馃檪

                      and data will be published here

                      I never said that Opera publishes my or private user data here or anywhere in the forum!

                      But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.
                      You can easily trace the location, the IP is visible in many cases, and the correct location (according to the IP) is not always shown.
                      Also, Opera VPN does not work if a location is selected correctly; if I select Asia, a location in Europe will be displayed, for example, if I select USA, Opera VPN will display a location in the Netherlands.
                      So for me this is not a good approach to use the integrated VPN.

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                      • zalex108
                        zalex108 @senix last edited by zalex108

                        @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                        But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                        If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                        But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                        @blackbird71 turn, xD
                        I don't know too much about.

                        --

                        At least here,
                        USA VPN shows up USA IP and DNS.

                        2020-01-20_191041.png

                        2020-01-20_191008.png

                        "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                        • blackbird71
                          blackbird71 @zalex108 last edited by blackbird71

                          @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                          ...
                          @blackbird71 turn, xD
                          I don't know too much about.
                          ...

                          I do know that in stock markets, there are folks who sell stocks 'short" at a current market price (without actually owning it, but promise to deliver it to the buyer at some future point in time) and hope to profit if the future stock price goes down before they must purchase it to cover their sale. In some cases, short sellers have tried aggressively (and even illegally) to use scare tactics to drive the stock's price down so their cost to cover the short sale will be greatly reduced, hence their profit much higher.

                          I'm not a lawyer, but the serious and directed nature of the Hindenburg Report's accusations about Opera, if not based in fact, would certainly call for Opera's legal action against Hindenburg in the realms of both attempted stock manipulation and libel. The question is what, if anything, Opera will do in response. If there is no Opera response other than a PR statement, I will be greatly concerned.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            I'm far from being someone who can understand all those numbers, but it doesn't seem to me that Opera is going down like that site seems to be trying to show.

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                            • zalex108
                              zalex108 @blackbird71 last edited by zalex108

                              @blackbird71

                              馃槻

                              Actually pinged because the VPN Encryption. 馃榿

                              But if you meant that some people shells services whit lack of features, that would be the reason.

                              "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                              • skyrim2011
                                skyrim2011 last edited by

                                I am sad about this controversy, I am sure Opera is in full damage control and the frowned upon practices will stop.

                                I am not going to stop using Opera or Opera mobile. I will weather the storm.
                                Opera is the best desktop browser for my needs as a power user.

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                                • senix
                                  senix @zalex108 last edited by senix

                                  @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                  @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                  But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                                  If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                                  But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                                  Thats what I am talking about: The Opera VPN setting; when I set it to
                                  Asia = shows no location at all
                                  North/South US = shows Dakota/US
                                  Europe = shows nothing, or ones it says Fance ...

                                  See here
                                  .
                                  VPN_Asien_20200121_1329.jpeg
                                  .
                                  VPN_North+South_US_20200121_1331.jpeg
                                  .
                                  VPN_Europe_20200121_1330.jpeg
                                  .
                                  VPN_Europe_Opera_AirVPN_IP.jpeg
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                                  VPN-no_Opera_AirVPN_IP.jpeg
                                  .
                                  If you using AirVPN - it works fine 馃檪 Only with Opera VPN it doesn't!

                                  http://www.utrace.de/?query=77.111.246.31
                                  https://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=77.111.246.31
                                  https://ip8.com/ipdetails/77.111.246.31

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                                  • senix
                                    senix @zalex108 last edited by

                                    @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                    @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                    But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                                    If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                                    But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                                    Sorry, but I don't understand you point ...(?) Whats VPN is good for if anyone can see your origin IP adress via WebRTC?

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @senix last edited by

                                      @senix The problem is on the sites that you are using to check the location. They are guessing it wrongly.

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                                      • zalex108
                                        zalex108 @senix last edited by zalex108

                                        @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                        @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                        @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                                        But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                                        If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                                        But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                                        Sorry, but I don't understand you point ...(?) Whats VPN is good for if anyone can see your origin IP adress via WebRTC?

                                        I've tested on a Clean Profile and the result is the same, the detected IP came from the Opera VPN server and not mine.

                                        So, try those URLs:

                                        • Ipleak.net
                                        • iplocation.net

                                        And some others.

                                        --

                                        Share which you've tested and shows up the origin IP.

                                        "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                                          • senix
                                            senix @zalex108 last edited by senix

                                            @zalex108

                                            Both of them are working correctly - now!
                                            It was different before, on Opera.

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                                            *
                                            Opera_2020-01-21_1627_ipleak.net.png
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                                            Don't ask me why the screenshot is so messed up ... 馃槥 (when you click on it, and it is enlarged, then it is correct).

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