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    • zalex108
      zalex108 @senix last edited by

      @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

      VPN is not secure and data is published here

      馃 ?

      "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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      • senix
        senix @Guest last edited by

        @scam-buster said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

        .... There are other worthy options. I don't see any need for Opera on my systems anymore. The offered VPN is a joke.

        True. My conviction, or opinion, too.

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        • senix
          senix @zalex108 last edited by

          @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

          @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

          VPN is not secure and data is published here

          Please read correctly what I wrote before 馃檪

          and data will be published here

          I never said that Opera publishes my or private user data here or anywhere in the forum!

          But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.
          You can easily trace the location, the IP is visible in many cases, and the correct location (according to the IP) is not always shown.
          Also, Opera VPN does not work if a location is selected correctly; if I select Asia, a location in Europe will be displayed, for example, if I select USA, Opera VPN will display a location in the Netherlands.
          So for me this is not a good approach to use the integrated VPN.

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          • zalex108
            zalex108 @senix last edited by zalex108

            @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

            But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

            If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
            But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

            @blackbird71 turn, xD
            I don't know too much about.

            --

            At least here,
            USA VPN shows up USA IP and DNS.

            2020-01-20_191041.png

            2020-01-20_191008.png

            "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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            • blackbird71
              blackbird71 @zalex108 last edited by blackbird71

              @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

              ...
              @blackbird71 turn, xD
              I don't know too much about.
              ...

              I do know that in stock markets, there are folks who sell stocks 'short" at a current market price (without actually owning it, but promise to deliver it to the buyer at some future point in time) and hope to profit if the future stock price goes down before they must purchase it to cover their sale. In some cases, short sellers have tried aggressively (and even illegally) to use scare tactics to drive the stock's price down so their cost to cover the short sale will be greatly reduced, hence their profit much higher.

              I'm not a lawyer, but the serious and directed nature of the Hindenburg Report's accusations about Opera, if not based in fact, would certainly call for Opera's legal action against Hindenburg in the realms of both attempted stock manipulation and libel. The question is what, if anything, Opera will do in response. If there is no Opera response other than a PR statement, I will be greatly concerned.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                I'm far from being someone who can understand all those numbers, but it doesn't seem to me that Opera is going down like that site seems to be trying to show.

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                • zalex108
                  zalex108 @blackbird71 last edited by zalex108

                  @blackbird71

                  馃槻

                  Actually pinged because the VPN Encryption. 馃榿

                  But if you meant that some people shells services whit lack of features, that would be the reason.

                  "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    I am sad about this controversy, I am sure Opera is in full damage control and the frowned upon practices will stop.

                    I am not going to stop using Opera or Opera mobile. I will weather the storm.
                    Opera is the best desktop browser for my needs as a power user.

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                    • senix
                      senix @zalex108 last edited by senix

                      @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                      @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                      But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                      If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                      But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                      Thats what I am talking about: The Opera VPN setting; when I set it to
                      Asia = shows no location at all
                      North/South US = shows Dakota/US
                      Europe = shows nothing, or ones it says Fance ...

                      See here
                      .
                      VPN_Asien_20200121_1329.jpeg
                      .
                      VPN_North+South_US_20200121_1331.jpeg
                      .
                      VPN_Europe_20200121_1330.jpeg
                      .
                      VPN_Europe_Opera_AirVPN_IP.jpeg
                      .
                      VPN-no_Opera_AirVPN_IP.jpeg
                      .
                      If you using AirVPN - it works fine 馃檪 Only with Opera VPN it doesn't!

                      http://www.utrace.de/?query=77.111.246.31
                      https://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=77.111.246.31
                      https://ip8.com/ipdetails/77.111.246.31

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                      • senix
                        senix @zalex108 last edited by

                        @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                        @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                        But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                        If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                        But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                        Sorry, but I don't understand you point ...(?) Whats VPN is good for if anyone can see your origin IP adress via WebRTC?

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @senix last edited by

                          @senix The problem is on the sites that you are using to check the location. They are guessing it wrongly.

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                          • zalex108
                            zalex108 @senix last edited by zalex108

                            @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                            @zalex108 said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                            @senix said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...:

                            But I said that the Opera VPN is not secure because it is still possible to track where the user has logged in with the appropriate tools.

                            If it needs encryption and does not has, then sure.
                            But dedicated VPN services would not log but be also unencrypted.

                            Sorry, but I don't understand you point ...(?) Whats VPN is good for if anyone can see your origin IP adress via WebRTC?

                            I've tested on a Clean Profile and the result is the same, the detected IP came from the Opera VPN server and not mine.

                            So, try those URLs:

                            • Ipleak.net
                            • iplocation.net

                            And some others.

                            --

                            Share which you've tested and shows up the origin IP.

                            "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                              • senix
                                senix @zalex108 last edited by senix

                                @zalex108

                                Both of them are working correctly - now!
                                It was different before, on Opera.

                                Opera_2020-01-21_1607_iplocation.net.png
                                *
                                Opera_2020-01-21_1627_ipleak.net.png
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                                Don't ask me why the screenshot is so messed up ... 馃槥 (when you click on it, and it is enlarged, then it is correct).

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                                • zalex108
                                  zalex108 last edited by

                                  I don't know.

                                  Maybe an extension or Flag was involved?
                                  A Bug on older Opera versions?
                                  OS changes?

                                  At least for now you know it's working.
                                  Keep testing it to be sure.

                                  Your other check websites work fine too?

                                  "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                                  • senix
                                    senix @zalex108 last edited by senix

                                    @zalex108

                                    Ja, most of them are correct, but some sites are sometimes in Sveden, or in Ukraine. An hour ago I had the same site (gmx net) in Paris and then in Ukraine 馃槈
                                    Well, its not that bad, just strange ...

                                    My Add-Ons the same since month, I don't change my system not that often.

                                    BTW
                                    I use Linux openSuse Tumbleweed as main, and Leap 15.1 is my alternate; and also have windows 10, but don't use it very often ... And I haven't test all this on Windows yet.

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                                    • senix
                                      senix @zalex108 last edited by

                                      @zalex108

                                      Just run the upgrade from .27 to 66.0.3515.36 and it looks much better, I guess.
                                      All sites now are correctly displayed ... may it was a 馃悰

                                      Thx for your help 馃檪

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                                      • senix
                                        senix @leocg last edited by

                                        @leocg said in Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround ...

                                        @senix The problem is on the sites that you are using to check the location. They are guessing it wrongly.

                                        Hallo,
                                        If you delete my post, because I don't understand yours in this translation, then maybe next time please let me know, so I know why; furthermore I wanted to write to you, with a PN, doesn't work either, because you deactivated it. Also as a mod you could (maybe) be reachable if users have questions. Delete and move posts, that seems to be your hobby 馃槥

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @senix last edited by

                                          @senix The post wasn't in English.

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                                          • senix
                                            senix @leocg last edited by

                                            @leocg
                                            That makes no difference.
                                            It would have been nice if you sent me a message, or just put the translation underneath. Then everyone would have understood, just delete posts, that's... 馃槥
                                            And that's why I was, or I am still mad, because it wasn't the only one of my posts that you delete or move.

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