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    [Solved]Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?

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    • A Former User
      A Former User @leocg last edited by

      @leocg dunno about chrome dont use it
      but as maxthon provides the features opera doesnt
      its making me make a choice
      i like opera but its like a nice car that will only let you drive on certain roads and as such i prefer a crappier one that doesnt restrict me

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

        Do you have Flash for Chromium based browsers installed?

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        • A Former User
          A Former User @leocg last edited by

          @leocg Flash is installed and works ok with the sites other content. see the previous post by burnout maybe it is an iframe thing i dont know. All i know is it works fine in maxthon

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Works fine here for me in Opera Version:57.0.3098.106 but I have the Flash for chromium installed for a while now so I'd say all you need to do is goto the Adobe flash website and download and install the latest version of flash for chromium browsers

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            • A Former User
              A Former User @Guest last edited by

              @athlonite I have flash for chrome installed but the site just wants to download a .swf instead of opening it

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              • burnout426
                burnout426 Volunteer last edited by burnout426

                @Ceedee

                Set opera://flags/#enable-ephemeral-flash-permission to disabled and relaunch Opera.

                Goto opera://settings/content/flash make sure "Allow sites to run Flash" is enabled and make sure "Ask first" is disabled. Then, make sure there's nothing in the allow/block lists.

                Also, make sure Opera's adblocker, VPN and Turbo are turned off.

                Also, make sure all your extensions are disabled (for this test at least).

                Then goto http://jc.osche.free.fr/flash/tinman-infinite-oz.htm.

                Does it work then?

                It's the "Allow sites to run Flash" without "asked" enabled that makes it work in Opera. The ephemeral option is just to stop Flash asking you each time and isn't really needed when ask is not enabled. The ephemeral flag is going in newer versions of Opera anyway.

                Having "asked" enabled and putting the site in the "Allow" list isn't enough to make it work. Ask has to be disabled. Note that in other Chromium browsers, you can't disable "ask" anymore (Opera added the option back in), so this will only work with Opera. Loading the source of https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/extensions/always_activate_flash in chrome://extensions in Chrome makes the site work in Chrome though.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                  @burnout426 progress but not quite there yet
                  it now loads i see a progress bar at bottom but it sticks at 90
                  did both the settings tweaks you mentioned
                  adblocker vpn and turbo disabled

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                  • burnout426
                    burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                    @ceedee Hmm, it's loading all the way for me and I get to the background with the windmill etc.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                      @burnout426 Fixed it you are a star
                      had to do one more step
                      clear temp internet files
                      now it works
                      kudos burnout426 owe you buddy

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @burnout426 last edited by A Former User

                        @burnout426

                        Typical opera just autoupdated and its broke again
                        Im so fed up with this crap
                        Opera portable still works though
                        Ill just uninstall opera i think
                        stick to the portable which doesnt update itself or alter things every 5 mins

                        maybe a little explanation about me and why i am so anal about this issue and other "silly" things
                        I suffered a couple of strokes about 5 years ago which left me severly memory disfunctanal and i rely heavily on things like opera to remember for me
                        any changes and i freak out a bit
                        a simple unwanted addition to my start page causes me anxiety and screws with me
                        anyway just a explanation of why im like i am

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                        • burnout426
                          burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                          @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

                          Typical opera just autoupdated and its broke again

                          Hmm, my Opera updated to 57.0.3098.110 and the site is still working. I checked my settings and they're still the same.

                          Did it turn "Ask" back on for Flash? Maybe try disabling "Allow sites to run Flash" and then enable it again. If "Ask" is still off, try turning it on and back off.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User @burnout426 last edited by A Former User

                            @burnout426 it does the loading to 90 thing
                            but doesnt get past that I will try what you suggest and report back

                            Something odd I have allow flash on
                            ask first off
                            disabled the ephemaral thing you said

                            it puts a plugin blocked in the address bar everytime i go to tinman
                            if i click that and select run this time it loads and sticks at 90

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                              Chromium is in process of deprecating support for Flash and it will be more and more hard to play Flash content as time goes.

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                              • burnout426
                                burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

                                it puts a plugin blocked in the address bar everytime i go to tinman

                                Chromium (and therefore Opera) blocks small Flash elements on a page (less then 6 x 6 for Flash elements on the same domain). When this happens, you'll get that notification where you can temporarily allow it. But, a lot of times, the small Flash object being blocked is for an ad or something and not the main Flash object. You can try my Always Load Flash extension at https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/extensions/always_activate_flash if you want, which will work around that and always load Flash.

                                it does the loading to 90 thing

                                Clearing the cache again fix it?

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                                  @burnout426 clearing cache ineffective
                                  i rolled back to 106 version and it working again
                                  just have to kill operas autoupdate and stick with that version

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Allowed it to update
                                    For testing purposes

                                    0_1546634971447_Opera Snapshot_2019-01-04_204751_update.png

                                    it sticks at 90 loading
                                    portable 106 version goes past and runs it

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                                    I know chrome has a hard on for flash for some reason
                                    but if chrome deprecates flash
                                    I will just deprecate opera simple

                                    so much flash content out there and i wanna choose if i see it or not am i being unreasonable ?

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by leocg

                                      Adobe itself is deprecating Flash too. Plugins are no longer needed in modern web.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User @leocg last edited by

                                        @leocg Yet I need them
                                        and maybe others too though i cant speak for anyone but me

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                                          blackbird71 @Guest last edited by

                                          @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

                                          @leocg Yet I need them and maybe others too though i cant speak for anyone but me

                                          You will nevertheless experience a decreasing array of Flash-compatible browser options over the next 6 to 23 months. After that, your Flash options become thin indeed.

                                          By mid-2019, IE and Edge will both have Flash disabled by default (though still able to be manually re-enabled via the settings); by mid-2020, Flash will be non-existent in both browsers. By mid-2019, Chrome (and the chromium clones) will behave exactly the same way. By early 2020, the Firefox Flash plug-in will disappear as a default, though Flash will be accessible from the settings; by the end of 2020, Flash will be non-existent in Firefox. By the end of 2020, your best bet for a Flash-compatible browser will likely only be one of a few Webkit-based clones that retain Flash for however long thereafter. These deprecation schedules are already in place and unfolding, even as we write. (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3211437/web-browsers/faq-how-apple-google-microsoft-and-mozilla-will-eliminate-adobe-flash.html )

                                          Once Flash goes unsupported by Adobe at the end of 2020, no further security updates will occur, period. (This, in a software program that has historically been one of the most security-flawed entities ever released.) When chromium and Microsoft finally, fully deprecate Flash on or before the end of 2020, over 95% of the browser marketplace will be unable to render Flash content. That largely guarantees that any site relying on Flash will either find an alternative to Flash or will soon evaporate. Already, only 5% of all websites employ Flash, down from over 28% in 2011 (https://www.alphr.com/software/1009184/adobe-flash-dead-websites-ditch-software ).

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                                          • burnout426
                                            burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                            @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

                                            it sticks at 90 loading
                                            portable 106 version goes past and runs it

                                            That's weird. There's nothing in the changelog for 57.0.3098.110 that should affect any of this. I also can't reproduce the issue with 110. It works the same as 106 for me. I'd guess that some extension or Opera Sync or Opera's adblocker or
                                            Opera Turbo or Opera VPEN, or a corrupted profile or something outside Opera is causing issues when Opera updates.

                                            I can see Flash is still loading for you in 110, so it's not that at least. It seems to be an issue with resource fetching.

                                            Did you try a fresh, portable install of 110?

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