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    [Solved]Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?

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    • burnout426
      burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

      @blackbird71 said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

      the site works fine in IE and Edge (both of which, by design, can still render a shockwave/flash file)

      That's the main problem right there. The site is trying to load the swf file directly (in an iframe). Chromium browsers don't have a handler for that situation. The site instead needs to embed the swf file with an embed element or an object element. Then it'll load in Opera and Chrome (after allow Flash for the site). However, even then when the Flash loads, none of the animation loads. So, there's something extra going on there too.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

        @burnout426 yes i know that but as other browsers have no problem with it I was just wondering what was operas problem. Having to have a standby browser is a bit irritating for something so trivial.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

          The site works in Chromium? What about in Chrome?

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          • A Former User
            A Former User @leocg last edited by

            @leocg dunno about chrome dont use it
            but as maxthon provides the features opera doesnt
            its making me make a choice
            i like opera but its like a nice car that will only let you drive on certain roads and as such i prefer a crappier one that doesnt restrict me

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

              Do you have Flash for Chromium based browsers installed?

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                A Former User @leocg last edited by

                @leocg Flash is installed and works ok with the sites other content. see the previous post by burnout maybe it is an iframe thing i dont know. All i know is it works fine in maxthon

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Works fine here for me in Opera Version:57.0.3098.106 but I have the Flash for chromium installed for a while now so I'd say all you need to do is goto the Adobe flash website and download and install the latest version of flash for chromium browsers

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @Guest last edited by

                    @athlonite I have flash for chrome installed but the site just wants to download a .swf instead of opening it

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                    • burnout426
                      burnout426 Volunteer last edited by burnout426

                      @Ceedee

                      Set opera://flags/#enable-ephemeral-flash-permission to disabled and relaunch Opera.

                      Goto opera://settings/content/flash make sure "Allow sites to run Flash" is enabled and make sure "Ask first" is disabled. Then, make sure there's nothing in the allow/block lists.

                      Also, make sure Opera's adblocker, VPN and Turbo are turned off.

                      Also, make sure all your extensions are disabled (for this test at least).

                      Then goto http://jc.osche.free.fr/flash/tinman-infinite-oz.htm.

                      Does it work then?

                      It's the "Allow sites to run Flash" without "asked" enabled that makes it work in Opera. The ephemeral option is just to stop Flash asking you each time and isn't really needed when ask is not enabled. The ephemeral flag is going in newer versions of Opera anyway.

                      Having "asked" enabled and putting the site in the "Allow" list isn't enough to make it work. Ask has to be disabled. Note that in other Chromium browsers, you can't disable "ask" anymore (Opera added the option back in), so this will only work with Opera. Loading the source of https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/extensions/always_activate_flash in chrome://extensions in Chrome makes the site work in Chrome though.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                        @burnout426 progress but not quite there yet
                        it now loads i see a progress bar at bottom but it sticks at 90
                        did both the settings tweaks you mentioned
                        adblocker vpn and turbo disabled

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                        • burnout426
                          burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                          @ceedee Hmm, it's loading all the way for me and I get to the background with the windmill etc.

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                            A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                            @burnout426 Fixed it you are a star
                            had to do one more step
                            clear temp internet files
                            now it works
                            kudos burnout426 owe you buddy

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User @burnout426 last edited by A Former User

                              @burnout426

                              Typical opera just autoupdated and its broke again
                              Im so fed up with this crap
                              Opera portable still works though
                              Ill just uninstall opera i think
                              stick to the portable which doesnt update itself or alter things every 5 mins

                              maybe a little explanation about me and why i am so anal about this issue and other "silly" things
                              I suffered a couple of strokes about 5 years ago which left me severly memory disfunctanal and i rely heavily on things like opera to remember for me
                              any changes and i freak out a bit
                              a simple unwanted addition to my start page causes me anxiety and screws with me
                              anyway just a explanation of why im like i am

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                              • burnout426
                                burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

                                Typical opera just autoupdated and its broke again

                                Hmm, my Opera updated to 57.0.3098.110 and the site is still working. I checked my settings and they're still the same.

                                Did it turn "Ask" back on for Flash? Maybe try disabling "Allow sites to run Flash" and then enable it again. If "Ask" is still off, try turning it on and back off.

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                                  A Former User @burnout426 last edited by A Former User

                                  @burnout426 it does the loading to 90 thing
                                  but doesnt get past that I will try what you suggest and report back

                                  Something odd I have allow flash on
                                  ask first off
                                  disabled the ephemaral thing you said

                                  it puts a plugin blocked in the address bar everytime i go to tinman
                                  if i click that and select run this time it loads and sticks at 90

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                    Chromium is in process of deprecating support for Flash and it will be more and more hard to play Flash content as time goes.

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                                    • burnout426
                                      burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                      @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

                                      it puts a plugin blocked in the address bar everytime i go to tinman

                                      Chromium (and therefore Opera) blocks small Flash elements on a page (less then 6 x 6 for Flash elements on the same domain). When this happens, you'll get that notification where you can temporarily allow it. But, a lot of times, the small Flash object being blocked is for an ad or something and not the main Flash object. You can try my Always Load Flash extension at https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/extensions/always_activate_flash if you want, which will work around that and always load Flash.

                                      it does the loading to 90 thing

                                      Clearing the cache again fix it?

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                                        A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                                        @burnout426 clearing cache ineffective
                                        i rolled back to 106 version and it working again
                                        just have to kill operas autoupdate and stick with that version

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                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          Allowed it to update
                                          For testing purposes

                                          0_1546634971447_Opera Snapshot_2019-01-04_204751_update.png

                                          it sticks at 90 loading
                                          portable 106 version goes past and runs it

                                          0_1546635039983_Capture.PNG

                                          I know chrome has a hard on for flash for some reason
                                          but if chrome deprecates flash
                                          I will just deprecate opera simple

                                          so much flash content out there and i wanna choose if i see it or not am i being unreasonable ?

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by leocg

                                            Adobe itself is deprecating Flash too. Plugins are no longer needed in modern web.

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