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    • opermo
      opermo last edited by

      Still 36.0.2130.75.
      Does anyone know if there'll be an security update anytime this month?

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Does anyone know if there'll be an security update anytime this month?

        Nope and there is no way to know unless the person works for Opera.

        Anyway, i think you shouldn't expect that many updates.

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        • opermo
          opermo last edited by

          So from a security standpoint, am I any better off using Opera than Chrome (which dropped Vista totally)?

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          • sgunhouse
            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            You answered your own question, didn't you? When was the last update for Chrome?

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            • opermo
              opermo last edited by

              You answered your own question, didn't you? When was the last update for Chrome?

              No. Chrome doesn't give any updates for Vista. Opera said it would give security updates (ostensibly making them safer for Vista users), but so far they haven't delivered on their promise.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                but so far they haven't delivered on their promise

                As i said, you should not expect those updates to be released often.

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                • sgunhouse
                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  It did release a security update once so far. Admittedly once isn't much but it is better than none.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    This is probably not the place to mention this, but Slimjet 10 uses Chromium 50, and still supports XP and Vista, which just shows that Opera (and Vivaldi) did not have to drop support!
                    How long the Slimjet developers will be able to maintain this remains to be seen of course.
                    🙂

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                    • opermo
                      opermo last edited by

                      Thanks davehawley, that was very helpful information.

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                      • opermo
                        opermo last edited by

                        Apparently Opera hasn't kept their word:

                        "We do care for our loyal users...While Opera 36 will be last one with features additions on Windows XP and Vista, we are still going to provide security and crash fixes to XP and Vista platform."

                        (Read the full article here)

                        Slimjet is a great Chromium based browser that still supports XP and Vista, I assume many will migrate to that from Opera. Thank you davehawley for informing us of it.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Apparently Opera hasn't kept their word:

                          Why do you say that?

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                          • opermo
                            opermo last edited by

                            Why do you say that?

                            Since 5/11 it didn't get any security updates, nor has the build changed from version 36.0.2130.75 to a higher number (within version 36).

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                            • sgunhouse
                              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              And has there been a reason to update it since then - a known exploit or crash?

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Since 5/11 it didn't get any security updates, nor has the build changed from version 36.0.2130.75 to a higher number (within version 36).

                                Well, as i said before i wouldn't expect frequent updates. Maybe a couple of them in a year or in a semester.

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                                • opermo
                                  opermo last edited by

                                  Well, as i said before i wouldn't expect frequent updates. Maybe a couple of them in a year or in a semester.

                                  Or in a few years?

                                  And has there been a reason to update it since then - a known exploit or crash?

                                  So that's the standard, Opera's only going to come in with a patch after news breaks of a new known exploit or crash?

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    The Opera developers will make a judgement call as to whether any reported exploits justify a new update for 36.
                                    Minor problems will probably not get patched as they arise, but hopefully when they do issue a new version it will contain a roll-up of all problems found since the last version. Only they can decide what problems are severe enough to warrant a new version, but they have promised that Opera 36 will remain safe, and I have no reason to think that they have reneged on that.
                                    🙂

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                      Or in a few years?

                                      Maybe. It may depends on the severity of security issues.

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        So that's the standard, Opera's only going to come in with a patch after news breaks of a new known exploit or crash?

                                        I guess it's not that easy to backport Chromium's security patches so Opera most probably will release an update with them only when there is an amount that justifies the release or if something really severe has been fixed.

                                        They probably will not be releasing every month.

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                                        • opermo
                                          opermo last edited by

                                          but they have promised that Opera 36 will remain safe, and I have no reason to think that they have reneged on that.

                                          Why's that? They haven't updated 36 for Vista in two months already.

                                          Or in a few years?

                                          Maybe. It may depends on the severity of security issues.

                                          Or what they deem important enough to create a patch for (which could be nothing).

                                          I guess it's not that easy to backport Chromium's security patches

                                          I guess it's easier for Slimjet to do so.

                                          They probably will not be releasing every month.

                                          Not probably, for sure. Question is if there'll be anything this year.


                                          Anyway, from the discussions above and the debate over how many times a year Opera will deem it appropriate to send (only major) security patches it's clear that when Opera says: "We do care for our loyal users..." we're not to take that literally.

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                            Why's that? They haven't updated 36 for Vista in two months already.

                                            Well, they already said that Opera Presto (Opera 12.1x) would get security updates and the first one took around 3 years.

                                            They said that Opera 36 would get updates but they didn't say how often those update would occur.

                                            I guess it's easier for Slimjet to do so.

                                            Well, i don't know Slimjet so i don't know how it is build or even how reliable it is.

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