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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      Does anyone know if there'll be an security update anytime this month?

      Nope and there is no way to know unless the person works for Opera.

      Anyway, i think you shouldn't expect that many updates.

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      • opermo
        opermo last edited by

        So from a security standpoint, am I any better off using Opera than Chrome (which dropped Vista totally)?

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        • sgunhouse
          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          You answered your own question, didn't you? When was the last update for Chrome?

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          • opermo
            opermo last edited by

            You answered your own question, didn't you? When was the last update for Chrome?

            No. Chrome doesn't give any updates for Vista. Opera said it would give security updates (ostensibly making them safer for Vista users), but so far they haven't delivered on their promise.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              but so far they haven't delivered on their promise

              As i said, you should not expect those updates to be released often.

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              • sgunhouse
                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                It did release a security update once so far. Admittedly once isn't much but it is better than none.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  This is probably not the place to mention this, but Slimjet 10 uses Chromium 50, and still supports XP and Vista, which just shows that Opera (and Vivaldi) did not have to drop support!
                  How long the Slimjet developers will be able to maintain this remains to be seen of course.
                  🙂

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                  • opermo
                    opermo last edited by

                    Thanks davehawley, that was very helpful information.

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                    • opermo
                      opermo last edited by

                      Apparently Opera hasn't kept their word:

                      "We do care for our loyal users...While Opera 36 will be last one with features additions on Windows XP and Vista, we are still going to provide security and crash fixes to XP and Vista platform."

                      (Read the full article here)

                      Slimjet is a great Chromium based browser that still supports XP and Vista, I assume many will migrate to that from Opera. Thank you davehawley for informing us of it.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        Apparently Opera hasn't kept their word:

                        Why do you say that?

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                        • opermo
                          opermo last edited by

                          Why do you say that?

                          Since 5/11 it didn't get any security updates, nor has the build changed from version 36.0.2130.75 to a higher number (within version 36).

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                          • sgunhouse
                            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            And has there been a reason to update it since then - a known exploit or crash?

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              Since 5/11 it didn't get any security updates, nor has the build changed from version 36.0.2130.75 to a higher number (within version 36).

                              Well, as i said before i wouldn't expect frequent updates. Maybe a couple of them in a year or in a semester.

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                              • opermo
                                opermo last edited by

                                Well, as i said before i wouldn't expect frequent updates. Maybe a couple of them in a year or in a semester.

                                Or in a few years?

                                And has there been a reason to update it since then - a known exploit or crash?

                                So that's the standard, Opera's only going to come in with a patch after news breaks of a new known exploit or crash?

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  The Opera developers will make a judgement call as to whether any reported exploits justify a new update for 36.
                                  Minor problems will probably not get patched as they arise, but hopefully when they do issue a new version it will contain a roll-up of all problems found since the last version. Only they can decide what problems are severe enough to warrant a new version, but they have promised that Opera 36 will remain safe, and I have no reason to think that they have reneged on that.
                                  🙂

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    Or in a few years?

                                    Maybe. It may depends on the severity of security issues.

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                      So that's the standard, Opera's only going to come in with a patch after news breaks of a new known exploit or crash?

                                      I guess it's not that easy to backport Chromium's security patches so Opera most probably will release an update with them only when there is an amount that justifies the release or if something really severe has been fixed.

                                      They probably will not be releasing every month.

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                                      • opermo
                                        opermo last edited by

                                        but they have promised that Opera 36 will remain safe, and I have no reason to think that they have reneged on that.

                                        Why's that? They haven't updated 36 for Vista in two months already.

                                        Or in a few years?

                                        Maybe. It may depends on the severity of security issues.

                                        Or what they deem important enough to create a patch for (which could be nothing).

                                        I guess it's not that easy to backport Chromium's security patches

                                        I guess it's easier for Slimjet to do so.

                                        They probably will not be releasing every month.

                                        Not probably, for sure. Question is if there'll be anything this year.


                                        Anyway, from the discussions above and the debate over how many times a year Opera will deem it appropriate to send (only major) security patches it's clear that when Opera says: "We do care for our loyal users..." we're not to take that literally.

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                          Why's that? They haven't updated 36 for Vista in two months already.

                                          Well, they already said that Opera Presto (Opera 12.1x) would get security updates and the first one took around 3 years.

                                          They said that Opera 36 would get updates but they didn't say how often those update would occur.

                                          I guess it's easier for Slimjet to do so.

                                          Well, i don't know Slimjet so i don't know how it is build or even how reliable it is.

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                                          • opermo
                                            opermo last edited by

                                            Well, they already said that Opera Presto (Opera 12.1x) would get security updates and the first one took around 3 years.

                                            And that tells you all you need to know about how much they "care" about their loyal users.
                                            They didn't deem it appropriate to issue a security update for a web browser in three years?? Seriously??

                                            Well, i don't know Slimjet so i don't know how it is build or even how reliable it is.

                                            https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-the-new-chromium-based-browser-Slimjet
                                            http://www.thewindowsclub.com/slimjet-browser-review-download

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