Opera 12.18
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blackbird71 last edited by... speaking as one of the former myopera forums D&D participants :insane: :braindead: and one who likes conspiracy theories from an intellectual PoV but doesn't take 'em serious -> Anyone considered that this Presto update just came after Opera was sold to some "asian" company (considered that I got the headlines right and the deal was made)??? So a Presto Update after that? Anyone hearing the voices in his back of his mind whispering "Trojan.... Censorship... Big Brother.... NSA... (Oops, wrong Country).... Backdoor...." ???
No Really, I am glad that Presto is still updated - but the timing is a bit... well, it is an open invitation to said "conspiracy theories"....The Opera sale was announced on or around 10 February, and consists of a cash tender offer for Opera ASA. Management and owners of about 1/3 of the shares have agreed to the offer and are recommending the sale to other shareholders. 5 days earlier, stock trading had been halted over media buyout speculation. Back in August 2015, Opera had begun reviewing its options (including sale) after receiving strategic interest from a number of parties. This from BloombergBusiness: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/opera-software-gets-agreed-takeover-offer-valued-at-1-2-billion
Bottom line: A publicly-held company like Opera isn't 'sold' until it's actually sold - by owners of a majority of its stock shares. Exploring a sale is far, far removed from consummating a sale and turning over product developmental influence or control to a new owner. Consequently, whatever Opera has done with respect to creating Opera 12.18 was underway and has been finished well prior to any point of a legal sale completion, by developers under the employ of Opera ASA existing as an independent entity. Conspiracy theories regarding Opera 12.18, even presented semi-humorously, have no place at this point in time when even elemental common sense is applied. In some venues, it might even be construed with attempting to influence shareholder opinions and stock prices.
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abdozaghloul last edited by
Can someone confirm if http://www.softpedia.com/ has issues with fonts on Opera 12.18 & Windows 10 ??
Thanks.
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abdozaghloul last edited by
So, they're messed up and not showing properly, right ??
If so, it's something wrong with Opera itself, something with the coding if I may say "poor".
I'll report back what I've found so far.
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blackbird71 last edited by
The icons are messed up here in Firefox, Qupzilla, and Opera 12.18. In Firefox, they appear as small rectangles with "FO" above "05" inside the top ones (where the stars should be) and "F1/C0" and "F0/44" in the ones half way down the page; in Opera 12.18, they appear mainly as small rectangles, some of which have "x" symbols in them. The only browsers they seem to render correctly with are chromium/Blink-based ones.
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abdozaghloul last edited by
Regarding icons on http://www.softpedia.com/ , they are properly displayed in all the browsers I tested (Firefox, Opera 35, Chrome, Pale moon) but not Opera 12 even I fixed the issue I was having with other sites, which means the problem is with Opera 12 itself.
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Now back with my issue.
I was having windows firewall disabled using "Windows 10 Toggle Tweaker", and changed the start up mode to "Disabled" in services.
What I did was changing the start up mode to manual but this only didn't work, I had to start the service manually after right clicking the windows firewall service.
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So, enabling Windows firewall fix that, can you believe it , but I'll disable it again cause I don't like it.
It is because of MicroShit, this happen to me before, I couldn't use Windows updates (always ended with errors and nothing updated) because firewall was disabled. Also some programs that rely on "Inno VCL Styles" wasn't working and given errors like this one http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Patchers/Inno-Setup-XDELTA-Patch-Maker.shtml , and I've contacted the author and he fixed that.
This is just bullshit of M$hit to force you use their firewall or maybe bad coding, and I guess I can say Opera 12 is not fully compatible with Windows 10 which could be expected (it's 2 years old now or so), other browsers have no problem with firewall disabled.
Hopefully someone can find a fix for this or a workaround of some sort.
Thank you all for your help and special thanks to @davehawley, @sgunhouse and @stng who bear with me.
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A Former User last edited by
Has anyone else noticed that Facebook is now mis-rendering in 12.18?
The search field has dropped a line here and is now sitting on top of the first part of the main display, and everything in the bar where it should be is shifted to the left.
Only noticed it today, it was always OK in 12.17.
Changing the site preferences seems to make no difference.
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robkaw last edited by
Has anyone else noticed that Facebook is now mis-rendering in 12.18?
Yeah, the search field is misplaced recently, but it also was like that in 12.17. Probably can be fixed by a custom CSS, but I haven't figured how.
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4oh4 last edited by
Thanks for the updated version.
Conspiracy theorists: They might be able to do all kinds of tracking not only through the Windows binaries, but also through the online/call-home functionality like Dragonfly and whatever home servers Opera communicates with.
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A Former User last edited by
Has anyone else noticed that Facebook is now mis-rendering in 12.18?
Yeah, the search field is misplaced recently, but it also was like that in 12.17. Probably can be fixed by a custom CSS, but I haven't figured how.
Strange, because I only noticed it was wrong yesterday, and I've had 12.18 installed ever since it was released.
I certainly don't remember seeing the problem ever in 12.17.
If it's fixable by any means that would be very good indeed!
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winterling last edited by
My installation of 12.18 has stopped launching Flash for one particular site, churchservices.tv. It worked fine after update from 12.17 until two mornings ago - now the page is rendered OK but there's a space where the flash popup should be. The contact person at the website says there have been no changes to the site recently.
The flash installation is .306 ie. latest. The last time I used it successfully for the site in question, I also had a copy of Realplayer open.
Other sites such as Youtube, and another church network mcnmedia launch the plugin OK, though the churchservices guy says they use a more recent edition of jwplayer than mcn.
I'm running Windows Vista 32bit on an old Amilo laptop. Never had an issue with the problem site using 12.17.
Any suggestions most gratefully received!
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A Former User last edited by
Confirmed here.
Woks fine in all my other browsers, but as you say, no sign of the plugin loading on 12.18.
Changing the site preferences seems to make no difference.
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A Former User last edited by
It's probably something to do with the JW Player they're using.
It doesn't produce the normal menu when right clicked that YouTube videos and others give.
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rasz last edited by
@winterling churchservices.tv, also twitch.tv and many many sites with weird domain prefixes :
You need to manually download https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat
rename it to public_domains.dat
and copy it over to C:\Program Files\Opera x64\defaults or wherever you installed Opera 12.18.This is an ancient bug introduced around 12.15. Opera people first forgot to bundle this file with 12.15/.16/.17 x64 builds, and now its gone from both 12.18 x86 and x64 builds.
Without this file for example twitch.tv wont work. It has something to do with security (Cross-Origin Resource Sharing) and without it a lot of sites javascript cant function throwing security violations.
Other than that it appears to be a solid build. 12.17 had totally broken openssl when tls 1.1/1.2 was enabled resulting in constant crashing. This one seems stable.
Personally I think it might of been someones personal pet project/parting gift before being laid off in face of Chinese acquisition, for which I am extremely grateful. I had nightmares about decompiling Opera in IDA and manually binary patching newer version of openssl as my last ditch effort to use this great product in face of ECSDA gaining popularity.
those icons are fonts
opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableWebfonts
needs to be enabled, and browser needs to be able to download appropriate webfont file from the serverbtw: all of a sudden Reddit stopped working for me on opera today. I am logged in, but cant upvote, comment or even request password reset. I thought it was 12.18, but checked again on 12.17 and its the same, can someone confirm?
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rasz last edited by
stupid markdown ate my link, trying again
"https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat"
https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.datthis is official mozilla file, you can also get it from here:
https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/dns/effective_tld_names.dat?raw=1 -
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A Former User last edited by
Yes, it's really annoying, I don't care what @joshl and others who try to justify the use of the stupid markdown system here say!
Thanks very much for that, but the videos are still not working on churchservices.tv.
Should this have fixed them?
The videos on twitch.tv do seem to be working.
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