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    • shlomopos
      shlomopos last edited by

      Hi, I have version 34.0.2036.25
      Update stream: Stable
      System: Windows XP 32-bit
      and I am VERY surprised to see that anybody can see my passwords simply by going to Setting, Manage Passwords, and click on Show by any of the stored passwords!!??? What happened to my privacy??
      Actually this whole business of Opera (or the other browsers) entering passwords automatically sounds quite risky to me, what happens if somebody gets hold of my laptop? Surely there should be one central password to activate any of the stored password? Isn't this common sense, yet nobody seems to implement this! But now this Opera has gone a stage further to offer the user the actual password to use anywhere else he sees fit????????
      Any help or insight? Many thanks

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      • lando242
        lando242 last edited by

        anybody can see my passwords

        They can only do that if you log into your Windows account and then walk away from your computer. If they are logging into a different Windows account on the same system they wont be able to see them. Logging in and walking away is the computer equivalent of leaving your car running in the parking lot with the doors open while you run into the store for something.

        what happens if somebody gets hold of my laptop

        If they control your physical machine its game over. Period. Having Opera hide the passwords inside its settings menu means nothing because they could just bust into Windows, rip out the files where that data is stored and crack it open at their leisure. It takes awhile but its not hard. Its kind of like safes. If you ever look into buying one that must certainly don't guaranty that they wont get cracked open, they only give you a garuanty that it would take a professional so many minutes to break into one. Thats right, minutes. a 60 minute safe is considered pretty good at the consumer level.

        Isn't this common sense

        When you know what hackers are capable of its pretty laughable actually. Its like that little chain people get for their front door so they can open it a few inches but not let someone in. Unless they, you know, push on it or kick it or apply any kind of force to it.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          I am VERY surprised to see that anybody can see my passwords simply by going to Setting, Manage Passwords, and click on Show

          By default Opera asks for your OS password before reveal anything.

          Anyway, someone would have to:

          • Gain physical access to your computer;
          • Know your OS username and password to access you account (or be very lucky to get your computer while you are logged in);
          • Know Opera and how to show stored passwords

          Surely there should be one central password to activate any of the stored password? Isn't this common sense, yet nobody seems to implement this!

          That password is your OS password.

          Btw, it's the same in Chrome.

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          • shlomopos
            shlomopos last edited by

            thanks all, but actually knew about that, I actually never had a OS password deeming it not so necessary, and actually still think so! But I did make a password to try out this feature, and lo and behold, it still does not ask me for any password before revealing passwords! Now what?

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            • shlomopos
              shlomopos last edited by

              Forgot to mention, that yes, I did obviously reboot when trying this out. I'll try again soon maybe

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                I actually never had a OS password deeming it not so necessary, and actually still think so!

                Well, if you really care about privacy and security, then you should have one.

                It would also help preventing data loss if someone using your computer do something wrong.

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  But I did make a password to try out this feature, and lo and behold, it still does not ask me for any password before revealing passwords! Now what?

                  Have you changed any flag?

                  Maybe you need to try a reinstall.

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                  • davehawley
                    davehawley last edited by

                    I have a password set up on my OS (Windows XP SP3), although the OS is set to log on automatically.
                    I'm not asked for it when I look at my saved passwords on Opera Developer, it just shows them!
                    :eek:

                    Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Check specifically

                      chrome://flags/?search=passw#password-manager-reauthentication
                      
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                      • shlomopos
                        shlomopos last edited by

                        Like I said, it does not ask for password before revealing passwords. Is this a bug on the xp version?
                        Plus, what I meant to say before was, that ideally, whenever Opera enters a password for you automatically, it should ask for a quick password first. My idea is that you have to press a certain key within 5 secs, and you only get few tries!

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                        • davehawley
                          davehawley last edited by

                          Check specifically
                          chrome://flags/?search=passw#password-manager-reauthentication

                          Checked that out, and the setting is on its default.
                          Disable prompting is disabled, which should mean that it does prompt (how I hate double negatives in things like that, couldn't be more confusing!)
                          I did try the "enabled" setting, no change to the behaviour.
                          🙂

                          Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

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                          • burnout426
                            burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                            The prompt comes up for me on Win10, fwiw.

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              The prompt comes up for me on Win10, fwiw.

                              Same for me. Do you have to enter your OS password to gain acceas to your desktop?

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Like I said, it does not ask for password before revealing passwords

                                Do you need to use your OS password to access your OS desktop?

                                If yes, did yiu reinstall Opera after have created a OS password?

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                                • burnout426
                                  burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                                  Same for me. Do you have to enter your OS password to gain acceas to your desktop?

                                  Yep.

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    Yep.

                                    So maybe it depends on how you access your desktop for the password to be asked or not.

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                                    • shlomopos
                                      shlomopos last edited by

                                      No, because I have specially set a OS password, restarted, but still Opera does not ask for it before revealing!?

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        No, because I have specially set a OS password

                                        But you need to type it to login into your desktop?

                                        estarted, but still Opera does not ask for it before revealing!

                                        After a reinstall? Maybe Opera only gets the info when being installed.

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