Opera apparently decided that I want automatic updates, how do I revert that ?

  • I'm 100% sure that up until a few versions ago Opera was telling me that there was an update available and ask me if I wanted to update, and I'm 101% sure that I never changed any setting to make Opera update automatically. I prefer to be free to decide myself what happens to my computer and when. Or at least let me know once an update was installed without my consent.

    So I tried to find the setting to disable automatic update and go back to being told when a new version is available, but for the life of me I couldn't find any such setting. I hope someone can help me find that setting.

  • I'm 100% sure that up until a few versions ago Opera was telling me that there was an update available and ask me if I wanted to update...

    Which version was that and which one is the problem now?

  • I don't know at which version this behavior started because Opera wasn't telling me that it was updating so I don't know how many times it has automatically installed a new version.

    I realized the new behavior just because the Opera icon on the desktop suddenly looked different, otherwise I wouldn't have realized that not even now.

    The version I have now is 33.0.1990.43 .

  • I realized the new behavior just because the Opera icon on the desktop suddenly looked different...

    They changed it just recently.

    As far as I know, all nuOpera (Opera since v.15) upgrades automatically - unless the user undertakes special non-conformist steps (meddling with files in the Opera folders etc.).

  • Updating without user consent and without even informing the user afterwards is completely unacceptable and unheard of, so I don't think it works like that.

    In fact I'm sure that a few versions ago I could go to the About Opera page, see the current version, be told if a new version was available, and click an "Update Opera" button if I wanted to update to that version.

    So there is really no normal / "conformist" way to disable automatic updates, or at least to get Opera to ask for user consent ? It can only be done by hacking into some files / folders ?

  • tupac67, it is how all chromium-browsers updates works

  • tupac67, it is how all chromium-browsers updates works...
    you can disable update - opera://plugins/ (google update)

    Google update plugin is unrelated to Opera autoupdate.

  • Updating without user consent and without even informing the user afterwards is completely unacceptable and unheard of, so I don't think it works like that.

    Don't tell Microsoft about that. 🙂

    And yes, Opera autoupdates itself since a long time.
    You can avoid it by renaming or deleting the autoupdate executable or by blocking its acess to the internet or by removing the autoupdate task.

    In fact I'm sure that a few versions ago I could go to the About Opera page, see the current version, be told if a new version was available, and click an "Update Opera" button if I wanted to update to that version.

    Last Opera with such behavior was probably 12.17.

  • And yes, Opera autoupdates itself since a long time.
    You can avoid it by renaming or deleting the autoupdate executable or by blocking its acess to the internet or by removing the autoupdate task.

    Specific instructions in this post: https://forums.opera.com/post/86035.

  • Google update plugin is unrelated to Opera autoupdate.

    I edited my post after a minute (and you just answered after 5 min), but I mean - it's the same behavior

  • leocg,

    Don't tell Microsoft about that. 🙂

    Even they do know that. Through a simple option and not through a hack, you can set Windows Update to inform you when there is an update and let you decide when to install it. And that goes for absolutely any Microsoft product I ever used so far, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. It's true that Microsoft seems to be going to that direction starting from Windows 10, but still with related options available in the product itself, and in a very mild way compared to the severity of a complete lack of options in the product and zero information that an update took place.

    Forcing users to update and removing the possibility for them to decide when to update (f.ex. what about "not when I'm on a slow or expensive connection" or "not now that I'm in a hurry" or "not to that new version that my video driver is known to have an issue with" and so on ?) is a surprisingly fascist attitude, especially because this is done silently so most users won't even find out unless they routinely check the version. I thought this kind of mindset didn't belong in Opera. Even Windows 10 allows to prevent automatic download of updates on a connection basis, and it lets the user decide on which connections.

    I have never had on any of my computers any single product that behaves like Opera in this regard. Actually I would be interested to know other products that do that.

    davidr, thanks for the link; luckily I'm not a non-technical user so I can do that quite safely.

  • Even they do know that. Through a simple option and not through a hack, you can set Windows Update to inform you when there is an update and let you decide when to install it. And that goes for absolutely any Microsoft product I ever used so far, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. It's true that Microsoft seems to be going to that direction starting from Windows 10, but still with related options available in the product itself, and in a very mild way compared to the severity of a complete lack of options in the product and zero information that an update took place.

    I don't know if they changed something but i remember have read some news that they will start forcing autoupdate on Windows 10 depending on your "flavor" of it.

    It's the default option btw.

    I guess it will be the default behavior in the future. Software houses prefer people using newest versions since users with old ones may cost them money.

  • Lots of programs do auto-update without asking these days. In some cases, you can disable auto-update in the settings, but as soon as you install an update, the setting is back to the default. Flash is one example. Skype is another. However, I've noticed on CCleaner's "Startup" tab that there is an update task for Opera, which can be disabled. Would that do the trick?

  • Yes, removing the update task through CCleaner will do, as will several other hacks.

    Back to my point, I was not criticizing doing auto-update without asking. If the user leaves that setting on, good for him/her. I am criticizing not providing options to at least decide when to update (also not even informing the user that a new version is now in his/her computer, but this is just bad taste while the lack of an option has very practical ramifications).

    In some cases, you can disable auto-update in the settings...

    By saying that, you are saying that in all the other cases the user cannot even disable auto-update. I only encountered such behaviour in Opera so far (certainly not in Flash nor Skype). Can you mention which other products you are talking about that behave like Opera ?

  • I find it funny that, every time theres a new Opera releases, we get a half dozen people complaining about the auto update updating their Opera and another half dozen people complaining that the auto update isn't updating their Opera...

  • I find it funny that, every time theres a new Opera releases, we get a half dozen people complaining about the auto update updating their Opera and another half dozen people complaining that the auto update isn't updating their Opera...

    I find it normal instead. The first group is the people who would keep the autoupdate option set to "notify me that an update is available", the second group is the people who would keep the autoupdate option set to "update automatically". It's not surprising that some people prefer it in one way and other people prefer it in the other way.

    BTW, for the record, I did not complain that my Opera autoupdated but that they removed the option for the user to decide when to update. I always update to the latest version (unless there are known issues with a certain version), I just want to be free to do it when I decide to.

  • @tupac67

    I agree that this should be a choice, especially now that I have a very limited wireless internet connection. I have to buy fairly expensive data packs for any major installs.

    Also helps to know that I have a new version when reporting apparent bugs.

    The best way to block this seems to be the Windows environment variable technique

    "You can also set the environment variable OPERA_AUTOUPDATE_DISABLED. This works on all platforms." [my emphasis]

    From @avl in How to disable Auto-Update in the MacOS version, for those who need that. - Opera for Mac forums

    Also in How to disable automatic updates in Opera? - superuser.com

    There was a little confusion with other sources about having to assign a value with "= 1", but both of these recent sources indicate that one simply creates the environment variable without setting a value.

    PS
    Learned the hard way that underscore characters have to be preceded with backslashes in order to be visible in post comments Avoid common Markdown problems - Opera forums Help

  • @haleba Thanks a lot for the environment variable info. It's the simplest workaround of all and the only one that is not a hack, since from the name OPERA_AUTOUPDATE_DISABLED I infer that disabling automatic updates is exactly its purpose. This environment variable should be advertised much more in my opinion.

    This makes it even more awful that Opera doesn't contain a related option. Whatever.

  • UPDATE

    I noticed that my version had been updated in the background yet again even though the environment variable setting has update checking disabled. I started a thread specifically for keeping track of this. At that time "About Opera" reported

    Version: 35.0.2066.37 - Update checker is disabled

    even though the current version was 35.0.2066.68, so the environment variable setting was definitely working, but some other process is circumventing this, because checking today I have

    Version: 35.0.2066.68 - Update checker is disabled

    And it only gets worse, because checking the Opera program folder revealed a 35.0.2066.82 folder dated 2/25/2016. At 124 MB this is not cool since I'm on a metered connection now.

    The program folder contents don't reveal anything that can be disabled/deleted to stop this.

    I'm out of ideas on how to stop this. Might have to try emailing Opera directly.

  • Try renaming the autoupdater executable.

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