I Officially Quit Using Opera Today
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scottmccarthy945 last edited by
I have been using Opera as my primary browser on my computer, I Phone, IPAD, etc for over 1 year now. I love the look and feel of it and love the fact it has built in sync to sync your bookmarks and data across different computers and platforms. I also love the fast rendering and well laid out interface. With that said, none of that matters if you hit website incompatibilities constantly. I am not trying to slam Opera as I think it is a great browser but it's almost impossible to use consistently when you hit roadblock after roadblock with compatibility issues.
For example, I went to a software vendor's website today and typed in a very long inquiry via a web form and get to the bottom of the form and the CAPCHA code doesn't show up properly. I load the page with Firefox and IE and the code shows up. This is a constant occurrence.It just costs more time than it saves unfortunately.
Besides the incompatibility, the thing crashes constantly. I see people denying this problem until they are blue in the face but the fact is that Opera has a stability problem. You can sit here and blame it on people's computers all day but the fact is I have 2 workstations and 3 laptops all with either Windows 8 or Windows 10 and it the browser crashes all the time on every machine. It also crashes consistently on my IPhone and IPad when it hits specific websites.
It also sometimes just refuses to respond. When I boot up my systems and load Opera, I can try to open a web page after I start Windows and sometimes have to wait 1 to 2 minutes for Opera to even render the page and other browsers load the pages right away. Something is hanging Opera up after boot. This happens on all my machines on different networks in different offices. And yes, it happens with Turbo on or off.
I really truly like the look and feel of Opera as it is very well designed and has some very unique features I love but I cannot continue to ignore the issues documented above as they simply cost too much of my time working around them every day. I am sure some people are going to respond and slam me and others will find other reasons such as a problem with my machines or blame it on my network, etc. but the fact is these are real world issues reported by many people on this forum and other places.
I am writing this post not to slam Opera but to document my experiences in the hope it will help the Opera team address problems from a real world user. If these issues can be fixed, it will be the only browser I would use across all my devices.
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hoova last edited by
you call 1 year for ever i have been using it since v2 when it fit on a floppy disc,now that is forever
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jarmush last edited by
scottmccarthy945
Do you have a link to some of the webpages that causes Opera to crash?
I also have some problem with Opera v. 34 freezing. In my case I think there is a flash or memory problem. My new Asus laptop freezes very often but for my 4 years old Acer desktop it does not happend that often.
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jarmush last edited by
Both my computers have 6 Gb RAM, and run Windows 10 latest build.
When I say flash or memory problem it's just a guess by me. The reason is because the problem with Opera freezing occures most often on internet pages with a lot of commercials/ads or pictures.
It could also be that Windows 10 and Opera browser don't work quite well together.
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stuartofhoveton last edited by
scottmccarthy945, that is a real shame.
I am an IT support professional and have been using Opera since the late 1990's. There was a time when I moved to Firefox, however I have now come back to Opera as my browser of choice. Along with LastPass and DuckDuckGo it is a winner for me.
In my experience, web site designers will tell you that it is IE that is the problem browser to code for because historically it does not adhere to standards.
If your mind is made up, please do come back to Opera every so often and try again.
May I also please recommend to everyone out there 'HostsMan', a sure fire way to reduce being advertised to and spied upon, this also speeds up browsing.
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scottmccarthy945 last edited by
Let me rephrase because I think I made an error in my message. I have been using Opera as my primary browser for about a year. Prior, I was using it as my main browser but would use IE or Firefox for work or banking sites or programming firewalls, etc that I could not risk a problem with. I switched over to Opera full time as my primary browser for everything about a year ago. I have been using Opera consistently for years - probably over 6 years now. So it has been more than a year.
In terms of the sites, these are a few examples from the top of my head:
complex.com - crashes all the time
mydlink.com - doesnt work - don't support Opera
americanexpress.com - can't login due to a programming incompatibility
drudgereport.com - crashes iphone browser constantly
infowars.com - can't send feedback form due to capcha code not appearing
multiple big bear cabin rental sites - incompatible with browser - forms dont load properly
nova.edu - doesn't work consistently with my school website - incompatible
chegg.com - college textbooks don't load properly and search doesn't work consistently
Elite 3E - Accounting system interface doesn't work properly with Silverlight plug in. Website reports that Opera doesn't properly support the site. I use this website constantly.
Firewall Site - Doesn't always work properly and text search within the web pages doesn't work properly.
Netgear NAS Admin sites - Doesn't always load or login properly. Will sit and hang for 30+ seconds and sometimes works and sometimes doesn'tAgain, I think Opera is a great browser and has a great look and feel but until these incompatibilities, freezing and problems are addressed, it just gets too much of a headache to have to jump to another browser every time you hit multiple problems a day. For example, when I spend 10 minutes filling out a feedback form and realize the capcha code doesn't show, then I have to cut and paste everything over to Firefox and re-submit. It's a pain.
I have already seen the smart ass responses about my 1 year statement and I am sure there will more. I know people get emotional and feel like Opera is being attacked but successful products listen to their customers and deliver what they are asking. I think Opera has tremendous potential to move past the few percentage points it has for its user base if it could get past compatibility problems.
Otherwise, you can end up like Blackberry and attack anyone who has a negative comment and completely tune out the problems and then realize years later you have no more customers and you are trying to figure out how to survive the onslaught of products that actually listened to people.
Scott
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lando242 last edited by
Website reports that Opera doesn't properly support the site.
Most of the time that is crap. 'Supporting' a browser is a hassle so they pick 2 or 3 of the top web browsers, make the site work with them, and then flag everything else without testing it. Chase.com does the same thing and I've never had a single problem with the site in Opera.
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A Former User last edited by
I'm using Firefox more and more lately.
Opera 34 crashes on ALL of my Windows 10 computers. It's fine with an outdated version of 10 (build 10240) but if the OS is up to date it's random crashes all over the net. No other browsers do this on these computers.
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white-spirit last edited by
This is weird, because the only time Opera crashes for me is when I have like 100+ pages open without closing them, then the system runs out of memory.
Other than that, I haven't seen Opera crashing just by itself, or from visiting any specific site.
For compatibility problems - yeah, these do exist.
Firefox has an addon with the ability to load certain pages using IE, not sure if there is anything like that for Chrome/Opera. -
adanhamidu last edited by
So why quit Opera if the crash trigger is system RAM-related and not Opera browser-related? Get all the extra RAM you can for the system by borrowing from unused hard drive space or removable drive space.
> Ahmad Dan-Hamidu
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lando242 last edited by
Get all the extra RAM you can for the system by borrowing from unused hard drive space or removable drive space.
That is not how that works.
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stuartofhoveton last edited by
scottmccarthy945
Out of interest, the PC with Opera on, is that a PC that has been upgraded to Win10 from say Win7 or Win8?
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scottmccarthy945 last edited by
A couple responses to the discussion above. First, I have Opera on multiple computers - some with Windows 10 and others with Windows 7 and 8. Opera runs the worst on the Windows 10 machines so I am guessing there are still some code issues they need to sort out. Someone else made a comment about having issues on Windows 10 and I see most of the issues there.
The crashing is not my biggest issue as I know the crashing and compatibility issues will get solved. My biggest issue is compatibility because it is such a waist of time working on a site only to realize the submit button won't submit your form and you have to re-type the entire thing in Firefox or IE.
I am not sure what the solution is to the compatibility issues but this has plagued Opera for years now. Their compatibility used to be awful and to their credit, it has greatly improved. I know most sites are not going to bother making them Opera compatible since it has such a small market share but maybe they could setup a team and offer to test and certify sites for free as incentive for developers to make the sites compatible. Maybe the team could help point out issues and direct people how to make the sites compatible.
I know it's a great browser - I just wish the compatibility issues would be resolved.
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canadagoose4ever last edited by
Running Opera on Windows 10 here without any issues whatsoever. You must have other problems going on to be experiencing problems such as you're relating.
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jarmush last edited by
Could someone from Opera developer team confirm that they know about this problem with Opera freezing in Windows 10?
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A Former User last edited by
I know most sites are not going to bother making them Opera compatible since it has such a small market share but maybe they could setup a team and offer to test and certify sites for free as incentive for developers to make the sites compatible. Maybe the team could help point out issues and direct people how to make the sites compatible.
Testing a browser isn't the issue. It's rummaging around in the code, trying to spot and correct problems whilst making sure you don't end up breaking something in another browser that's the main issue. Unfortunately, a lot of developers clearly see no gain in investing the time in Opera as it isn't one of the big four browsers. They get around this (as @lando242 says in his post) by adding a message telling you your browser is incompatible.
Also, just so you know, I mainly use Opera on a Mac laptop running OSX 10.9.5 and have never had the browser crash. Could this be a Windows issue? As for iPad, that's a different story as it crashes all the time when I use (or used to use) it.
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lando242 last edited by
Its funny, some people have nothing but issues with Opera and Windows 10 and some people have none. I have none. Its my primary browser, I leave it running for days at a time, it comes back from multiple sleep/hibernation cycles, and I currently have 8 windows and 55 tabs open. Couple three times a week I read a bunch of webcomics which means I open about 100-150 tabs at a time and cycle through 468 tabs every quickly (so says my webcomics folder). Opera chugs right alone without an issue. I have 7 extensions activated and, outside of making Flash click to play because of annoying autoplay videos and ads with sound, I haven't done much else to it.
