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    • HealingCross
      HealingCross @iosaddict 0 last edited by

      @iosaddict-0 That’s an issue, I don’t see any clear answer, too. They could say, that Opera for this or that reason might not be affected, which isn’t very probable I guess.
      Or that their update for some mysterious reason already contains some or all fixes.
      Even Vivaldi is updated more often, although their development team is much smaller. Their Chromium is more recent as well.

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      • HealingCross
        HealingCross @iosaddict 0 last edited by

        @iosaddict-0 Look here for a statement by @Opera-Security :

        https://forums.opera.com/topic/72370/security-fixes-and-chromium-versions/2?_=1727108548507

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          iosaddict 0 @HealingCross last edited by

          @HealingCross316 I don't believe such a vague statement. 🤔

          I think at this point Opera should really cut down three streams to just two, keeping stable and beta only, if they don't have the resources to keep it. Making Chromium up to date should be their priority and not backporting, which simply makes technical debt worse.

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            HealingCross @iosaddict 0 last edited by

            @iosaddict-0 Time to move to Vivaldi or Firefox for security?

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              iosaddict 0 @HealingCross last edited by

              @HealingCross316 I would say Brave as they ship Chromium updates quite fast and is open source.

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                HealingCross @iosaddict 0 last edited by

                @iosaddict-0 Accepted, but for various reasons I won‘t touch Brave.

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                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @iosaddict 0 last edited by

                  @iosaddict-0 Even with just one stream Opera wouldn't be using the current Chromium version. It's been around 11 years that Opera changed to Chromium it it never happened.

                  And that's simply the price of innovation.

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                    iosaddict 0 @leocg last edited by iosaddict 0

                    @leocg It used to be more consistent, and the Chromium version in Dev had always been +2 versions ahead of whatever it was in the Stable channel. In the last year of so, things simply stagnated. There is no innovation here when it comes to pulling Chromium version that they don't even build from the ground up apart from the UI, which I really like, even more so than Chrome. I have a gut feeling they are using Aria to write their changelogs these days. "We have a new Chromium version to go with Dev for improved security", but in fact, the Chromium version was at least 2 months old by the time it got incorporated.

                    I guess Opera just needed a bad PR from some security analysts and it will prompt them to ship Chromium faster.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @iosaddict 0 last edited by

                      @iosaddict-0 Regarding Opera Developer, I guess Opera just decided to use a more stable version on all of its streams.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @iosaddict 0 last edited by

                        @iosaddict-0 Opera stable used to be on the same main version of Chromium, but always a few minor versions behind.

                        Most probably had to delay Chromium updates due to the development of some features.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @iosaddict 0 last edited by

                          @iosaddict-0 They probably have to change a lot of Chromium's code after the intakes to make sure that nothing will be broken, that's why they have always been at least few minor versions behind Chromium.

                          Even doing that, problem happens.

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                            HealingCross @leocg last edited by

                            @leocg I don't think we Arena talking about updates generally but about how fast security fixes from Chromium are included in Opera.
                            Even Vivaldi and Brave are normally doing this wirhin the next two days or even immediately. But Opera doesn't update for more than a week, sometimes even without the fixes.

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                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @HealingCross last edited by

                              @HealingCross316 The ones that really need to be included fast, are released shortly.

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                                HealingCross @leocg last edited by

                                @leocg We hope so.

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