Separate search box
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A Former User last edited by
search auto-complete without the use of a prefix character to trigger is a privacy flaw in that it sends every url I type to Google. Absolutely unacceptable under any circumstance.
Needing to use a prefix to trigger auto complete searching eg "g space download firefox" is either 1 (if I start by creating a new tab with Ctrl+T) or two (if I start by clicking in the box) extra characters to type. On anything with a screen bigger than a netbook it's an inconvenience for absolutely no benefit benefit because the display is wide enough to accommodate showing the full URL with plenty of room for a discrete search box to the right.
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lem729 last edited by
I had asked this question in the forum and was told there was no difference in safety. You don't have to use Google as the search engine. There were 5 choices from the address. If you right click on it, you can see what they are. Are you saying if you don't use Google as the search from the search bar, all the URLs go to google anyway. I don't understand that.
It's a bit scary. I hope some others in the forum chime in here on the question of whether a search from the address bar is as safe as a search from a separate search bar.However, I do believe in safety. I have the extension Disconnect Search from the Chrome store. It's supposed to be very protected/safe. You might want to look at that one. It sets up a separate search bar if you click on a button, including five engines, one of which is DuckDuckGo. I think whatever engine you choose, it's safe because of the way it is set up.m Here's a discussion of it. I saw a very good review that it got in a computer magazine a few weeks ago. Forget which one.
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lem729 last edited by
Here's something on Disconnect Search. It sounds like outsiders think your search request is coming from Disconnect. They have no idea it is coming from you.
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dvk-ru1 last edited by
You might create a firewall rule to block autosearch urls like https://www.google.com/complete/search* (replace .com with your national domain or a wildcard). The Google search will still work, but only if you press Enter.
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lem729 last edited by
The Disconnect search can operate from the main address box. So if you use one of the disconnect search engines -- let's say google, bing, yahoo, or others (DuckDuckGo is listed as a search engine, there is a problem with it right now, but they are working on a quick fix, I have been told), none of the search inquiries (purportedly
can be traced to you. An ousider will see the inquiry coming from Disconnect. So if you use Disconnect, you seemingly don't need the separate search box. Once you get it going, and check the box saying search from the main address bar, you have -- they are saying -- your protected searches, and good privacy. Alternatively, though, you can, if you prefer, search from a separate Disconnect box, though that takes a click to open it. -
alreadybanned last edited by
Is there a setting or an extension available to add a search box separate from the address box for opera 20?
This is something I loved about Opera too, the ability to type in a query and then select the search engine to use. Now with it adopting that stupid omnibar crap you have to type in a prefix.
Fauxbar looks like it might do the trick but I haven't tested it since I don't currently have any chromium browsers installed. You will need to install the extension that allows you to use ones from the Chrome store first
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-extensions/search box
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alreadybanned last edited by
Just gave it a try with Dragon and while it does create the separate search bar, it does it in a new tab page, so not exactly the same thing. I guess it's the closest we are going to get seeing as no webkit or chromium browser has a separate search bar. Monoculture is bad
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lem729 last edited by
If you have a favorite search engine, typing one or two letters in advance of a search is nothing. It's time to worry about what is worth worrying about and not mere nothings. Otherwise, haha, one would go mad.
As for the separate search box, you don't need it with Disconnect Plus. Your search request is not tracked to you. Of course, Opera does come in the Speed Dial with a separate google search bar, but I deleted it, as it takes up too much space, and accomplishes nothing.
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grierzo last edited by
Hi, new poster, but longtime Opera user here. If the issue is that someone only wants to use one alternative search engine then I agree, typing a single letter before the search term is not a big deal. However as well as the autocomplete issue, another reason people like a separate search box is to give greater choice of searches. In Opera 12 I have 12 different engines to choose for different purposes. (I used to have 18) As well as Duckduckgo, Startpage and ixquick, engines like Ask, Blekko (my current favourite for its tidy results), Zoo (formerly metacrawler),and Yandex give great results, and there are also custom searches for particular sites, image searches etc. It is far easier to find these in a drop down menu than trying to remember code letters or keywords for all of them.
Finally, to say there are five existing possibilities which should be enough for most people is not really accurate. Two - Amazon and Wikipedia - only give results from one website each. -
lem729 last edited by
Grierzo, first off, welcome to the forum.
And I do see your point. There was a security reason why Opera limited itself to the five defaults (something, I believe about the risk of hijacked search engines, but I cannot for the life of me remember exactly what it was. Perhaps someone else who recalls can post that here.
Still there are really
not so difficult, albeit perhaps old fashioned workarounds. If you want to use A LOT of alternative searches (the vast majority of people, allow me to propose, do not) (They usually stick with a favorite search engine, whether it be one of the common ones or another),
you could, as has already been noted in this forum, add the searches to Opera by going to the website and right clicking on the search bar, then right clicking on the opera address bar and finding the one or two letter code. And then (Haha, it sounds like an advertisement: I do it the old fashioned way) paste a little note on your dekstop with the search codes, or have them in your top desk drawer for easy and immediate access when needed. if you do some of your searches with the codes, you may well have the most frequently utilized easily memorized.There's always the ideal world, and then the world of workarounds. In this area of searches, I personally don't think a workaround is a big deal.
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Deleted User last edited by
As far as I know you can add searchs and choose which one you want to be the pattern. You can the search engine when you are going to search something.
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alreadybanned last edited by
Hi, new poster, but longtime Opera user here. If the issue is that someone only wants to use one alternative search engine then I agree, typing a single letter before the search term is not a big deal. However as well as the autocomplete issue, another reason people like a separate search box is to give greater choice of searches. In Opera 12 I have 12 different engines to choose for different purposes. (I used to have 18) As well as Duckduckgo, Startpage and ixquick, engines like Ask, Blekko (my current favourite for its tidy results), Zoo (formerly metacrawler),and Yandex give great results, and there are also custom searches for particular sites, image searches etc. It is far easier to find these in a drop down menu than trying to remember code letters or keywords for all of them.
Finally, to say there are five existing possibilities which should be enough for most people is not really accurate. Two - Amazon and Wikipedia - only give results from one website each.I completely agree with you. I had(and still do in Firefox)10 search engines with 6-8 of them being used daily. People are different and we work differently. Old Opera was great for that and it was the main reason I used it. IE wasn't just a terrible browser because it was slow and a security hole but because of the lack of options. Chrome came along and in spite of it's speed and extensions, is still very restrictive. Those who used Opera tolerated the site incompatibilities for a reason. It's no surprise then why new Opera is getting so much flack.
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Deleted User last edited by
alreadybanned: why so negative all the time? I mean seriously... if Opera doesn't float your boat, why not find something that does?
Sidneyneto: that's pretty cool and informative. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure "most" readers will appreciate it.
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alreadybanned last edited by
alreadybanned: why so negative all the time? I mean seriously... if Opera doesn't float your boat, why not find something that does?
Sidneyneto: that's pretty cool and informative. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure "most" readers will appreciate it.I've already stated that I have. You and a few others love to complain about those you perceive as complainers, oh the irony. I'm a long time Opera user so I'm still holding out hope but I don't view things with rose coloured glasses either. A spade is a spade and I am calling it as such. If that's being negative what does attacking posters classify you as?
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lem729 last edited by
Leushino is doing exactly what you want, aleady banned, "calling a spade a spade," though about the negativity and rants of your posting.
By the way for all the doomsters about Opera, an April PC Magazine report sees Opera leading the supposed major internet browsers in 3 of 6 benchmark tests
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grierzo last edited by
Ah, Lem29, but the "vast majority of people" don't use Opera! We chose Opera because of all its features, ability to customise everything etc. I'm hopeful that some of that ability is returning bit by bit. But I do like your hi-tech suggestion of a note with the list of codes. I never thought of that!
Actually, the way alreadybanned describes it above was the actual process I used: "the ability to type in a query and then select the search engine to use" I would often type the query look at the drop down list and then choose the best search for it. Can't do that with prefixes.
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alreadybanned last edited by
Opera is not a positive experience right now, I don't think those who have issue with it are hiding that fact. However, those who make it personal while wearing some sort of mask of being a pillar are only deluding themselves. Negative is negative, so there really is no point in trying to pretty yours up. Pointing it out in others doesn't overshadow yours, it is what it is.
Benchmark tests are the go to argument from Webkit lovers so this comes as no surprise, it's a broken record really. Restricting the customization of the browser forces people to assimilate their browsing and work behaviours. Some don't mind while others do, that's life, you will always have opposites. Forcing silent updates however is rather Orwellian and now means that the browser will always be contacting "home", but that is a subject for another thread
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Deleted User last edited by
Opera is not a positive experience right now...
Uh... wrong. Let me restate it for you: "Opera is not a positive experience right now for me (sic... YOU alreadybanned [good moniker by the way]) and a number of other complainers and whiners. Opera IS a good experience for me and many others who are enjoying its speed, compatibility, unique features (Stash, Speed Dial, Discover) and its promise to keep on improving.
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Deleted User last edited by
hello:
how do i retrieve all my photos etc from myopera?
i wasn't aware of impending closure.
is there another forum blog spot where i can send them and maintain a new site.
thanks,
Kathy
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grierzo last edited by admin
Sorry to have to tell you this brianokane, if you haven't retrieved them already you may have lost them. There are a lot of unhappy people in a different forum here:
https://forums.opera.com/category/24/opera-account
