[Compilation]Discussions on Scrolling doesn't work if the mouse is on the edge of the screen

[akasudesu]

akasudesu @leocg last edited by akasudesu

@leocg Any reason why there is a gap on both left and right side of the "new" Opera? This honestly feels like a bad design in exchange for those curved edges that no one actually cared.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @akasudesu last edited by leocg

@akasudesu I guess the idea is to separate the modules.

And I like the new design.

[A Former User]

A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

@leocg said

@akasudesu I guess the idea is to separate the modules.

What module is to the right of the scrollbar?

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

@vegelund I was referring to the one on the left of it.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @Guest last edited by

@vegelund said in Scrolling does not work when cursor is on the left/right edge of a webpage:

What module is to the right of the scrollbar?

That's simple. Following their 'genius' design the whole web page content window is a module, so it's separated like other modules using the rounded corner border.

[A Former User]

A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

@leocg The main content module to the left of the scrollbar does not create any problems for the issue we are talking about.

[akasudesu]

akasudesu last edited by

I've reported this issue to the Opera team and I think you guys should too. Top left menu > Help > Report an issue.

@leocg is just a moderator watching this forum and venting your frustration on him won't solve anything.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @akasudesu last edited by

@akasudesu the problem here is that the border is by design.
So solution here is to remove the border completely.
But if they'll remove the border, it'll break the idea of the modular design with its rounded corners. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have doubts that they'll qualify the existing problem as an issue or bug.

[Clayem]

Clayem @leocg last edited by

@leocg I like the new design, too, but it ruins absolutely all user habits. I'm sure everyone on the planet just moves the cursor to the right during a quick scroll, without having to move it a millimeter to the left afterwards.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Clayem last edited by

@clayem Well, I don't do that. I just use the scroll button and don't really care where the cursor is.
And for me it's the normal behavior.

[luciflash]

luciflash @Clayem last edited by

@clayem I don't. I move it to the absolute left. The issue remains the same though.
Anyone who uses the scroll bar is a maniac

[A Former User]

A Former User @luciflash last edited by A Former User

@luciflash said

Anyone who uses the scroll bar is a maniac

How do you move quickly down long pages?

[andrew84]

andrew84 last edited by

Sometimes I use mouse's middle click to quickly scroll, but this doesn't excuse the ill-conceived design.

[luciflash]

luciflash @Guest last edited by luciflash

@vegelund I have an MX Master with a magnetic freespin mouse wheel.
Basically I fling the wheel and it keeps going for tens/hundreds of lines.

When I don't have my mouse, I use the technique that @andrew84 mentioned before.

[A Former User]

A Former User @luciflash last edited by A Former User

@luciflash and @andrew84

I'm on a ThinkPad X1 and use the TrackPoint for mouse movement.

For scrolling I can use:

• The middle mouse button. That will scroll at a linear and constant pace, taking forever to get from 2/20 to 18/20 of a page.

• The up/down arrows on the keyboard or top/bottom arrows of scrollbar with same result; linear scroll speed and takes forever.

• Page up/down buttons or click above/below the scrollbar. Same thing here, will take 30 clicks to move from top to bottom of a long page.

• Catch the scrollbar and pull it up/down. Based on the pressure I place on the TrackPoint I can increase/decrease the speed of scrolling, to elegantly move throughout a large page and easily stop wherever I want.

So for moving on long webpages the scrollbar is invaluable to me.

[andrew84]

andrew84 last edited by

I'd like to hear from Opera team about some benefits of the web content's border. Why the border is cool, what extra usability it offers and etc.

[A Former User]

A Former User @andrew84 last edited by A Former User

@andrew84

No worries. It will be fixed.
It’s an obvious mistake for Chromium behavior.

@leocg said

And for me it's the normal behavior.

My beef with you is that while you are the most prolific poster on this forum by magnitudes,
you are never remotely critical of anything produced by Opera.

It usually goes like this:

A new release, feature or bug comes along.
A huge number of users comment negatively on this and want change.
@leocg loves it and sees nothing wrong...

After some time, Opera realizes it was a mistake and fixes it.

Now, who was correct?
and who was blatantly gullible and out of touch with common users?

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

@vegelund Just because something has changed doesn't necessarily mean that it was wrong or bad before, but that people may prefer things in a different way.
It's known that (human) brain doesn't like changes and (people) may have difficulties adapting to those changes.

Also, just because someone can't see or reproduce a problem doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And just because someone is having a problem doesn't mean that it affects everyone.

[A Former User]

A Former User @leocg last edited by

@leocg Fair enough.

[AlterBridg3]

AlterBridg3 last edited by

Had to reinstall windows, and this new opera is giving me scrolling issues since i often put my cursor on very left side of the screen. Also speed dials have worse visuals, really prefer it old way.

I thought my opera was up to date prior to windows reinstall. But this one is clearly completely different version. Is there other version i can download without rounded corners and all that jazz?