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    • paulc
      paulc last edited by

      xfce and opera 80.0.4170.72
      This is really annoying. I have auto-raise on hover de-selected. No other programs do this. When opera pops up a window and you overshoot the scrollbar a and drift into the main window, the popup gets buried under the main window. Not cool opera. Not cool.
      Clearly this is a deliberate choice and has been an issue for over a month.

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      • morckx
        morckx last edited by

        Still not fixed in 82.0.4226.0, sigh.

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        • paulc
          paulc @morckx last edited by

          @morckx Bummer!
          I am considering two options. Rolling back to a version before this bug was added and just moving totally to vivaldi. The second option is looking better if it also salves the loosing tabs on restart issue and/or losing the ability to display Japanese (on any asian character set) after running for a while.

          What was the last version where this auto-raise was not present?

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          • jamesisin
            jamesisin last edited by

            I have confirmed this is true across several versions of Ubuntu (16,04, 18.04, and 20.04 plus the studio Ubuntu 20.04). It's a giant pain in the ass. Ridiculous this hasn't been addressed over several version releases of Opera itself.

            If I have two windows in close approximation and my mouse passes over them both they will get in this tug-o-war for focus and I'll have to kill Opera to regain control over it.

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            • jamesisin
              jamesisin @IKuyanov last edited by jamesisin

              @ikuyanov I was able to confirm this auto-raise behavior is connected to the "Sloppy" focus setting (on Ubuntu 18.04.6) with "Raise Windows When Focused" turned "Off". Turning "Raise..." "On" also raises Opera windows but does so without the delay observed (correct behavior) in other windows raising.

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              • morckx
                morckx last edited by

                The bug is still present in Opera 83.0.4232.0.

                (I haven't checked yet in which version the bug appeared first).

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                • FabriceN
                  FabriceN last edited by

                  Same here( Ubuntu 20.04, Mate ) , and still with today's update 😞 . Super aggravating on the small screen of a laptop.

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                  • morckx
                    morckx @morckx last edited by

                    Click-to-raise is still broken on 83.0.4239.0

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer @morckx last edited by

                      @morckx I presume you mean not raising unless clicked, as the thread is about the window being raised when it is not clicked (if you've set "Focus follows mouse"). The window manager supports programs raising themselves, and the problem is Opera thinks it should be raised when it receives focus.

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                      • morckx
                        morckx @sgunhouse last edited by

                        @sgunhouse

                        Absolutely. Click-to-raise is in so far broken, as a corresponding setting in the window manager is ignored by Opera, auto-raising when it receives focus, without a click.

                        The issue is only present on Linux and not on Mac and Windows.

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                        • AgLupus
                          AgLupus last edited by

                          Just upgraded to latest stable, also tried beta & developer version, still the same. I'm giving up and move to Vivaldi.

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                          • alxobr
                            alxobr @AgLupus last edited by

                            @aglupus Alternatively, you could install an older package.

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                            • paulc
                              paulc @AgLupus last edited by

                              @aglupus I have made the move to Vivaldi. It was a sad day since I've been using Opera as my primary browser on linux for more than 15 years. But, I've exported my bookmarks as html and imported them into Vivaldi without a hitch.

                              Focus follows pointer without auto-raise is essential to my way of working. I never thought that this feature would be the final deal breaker of Opera. Thanks for all of the excellent years of browsing!

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                              • Aplus
                                Aplus last edited by

                                You can see from my previous posts, i tried a few different flavors of linux with same result,

                                I switched over to KDE (manjaro) and Opera works fine there. As I don't see anyone any other pots mentioned KDE, its probably solid on that windows manager

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                                • FabriceN
                                  FabriceN @Aplus last edited by

                                  @aplus : Maybe, but I'm not going to change the window manager or the mouse focus mode for 1 software that doesn't behave correctly and can be replaced by another.

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                                  • morckx
                                    morckx @morckx last edited by

                                    Still broken in Opera 83.0.4246.0

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                                    • IKuyanov
                                      IKuyanov @Aplus last edited by

                                      @aplus, its strange, that browser cannot work with such a popular window manager like gnome. In addition to this problem, Opera has many other annoying bugs. For example, a dropdown menu bar if you use the keyboard shortcut with "alt" key. These bugs are not fix for a long time (more than a half a year i think) and it is very annoying.

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                                      • FabriceN
                                        FabriceN @IKuyanov last edited by

                                        @ikuyanov : and a recent release broke all the videos.

                                        and recent annoying behaviors ( e.g. on image copy-paste ) recently introduced on chrome are now here too.

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                                        • paulc
                                          paulc @FabriceN last edited by

                                          @fabricen Add to this the inability to handle non-ascii characters (specifically CJK) consistently without resorting to the dreaded rectangles. Also, add the spotty restore of tabs on restart. Opera sometimes forgets all of the new tabs from the last day.
                                          All complex software has bugs and things which do not work the way you would expect. Adding features is more fun than fixing bugs, improving performance, and polishing functions. Is there a publicly visible list of known issues?

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                                          • morckx
                                            morckx last edited by

                                            The problem is fixed in the latest Opera Developer 84.0.4260.0! The opera window is no longer raised unwantedly when it gets focus

                                            Thanks!

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