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    • mwillson
      mwillson last edited by

      Same problem. Just rolling over a tiny portion of the mostly hidden window pops the whole thing to the foreground. Makes it completely useless to have anything but active or minimized. Used to be that clicking anywhere brought it forward, also not desirable, but tolerable.

      I blame gnome/gtk for forcing every app to be their own window manager. Now every desktop app looks different and behaves in random ways instead of how I set my window manager. Chrome has started doing this too for some of it's sub-windows. Pretty soon it will be the whole browser.

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      • paulc
        paulc last edited by

        xfce and opera 80.0.4170.72
        This is really annoying. I have auto-raise on hover de-selected. No other programs do this. When opera pops up a window and you overshoot the scrollbar a and drift into the main window, the popup gets buried under the main window. Not cool opera. Not cool.
        Clearly this is a deliberate choice and has been an issue for over a month.

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        • morckx
          morckx last edited by

          Still not fixed in 82.0.4226.0, sigh.

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          • paulc
            paulc @morckx last edited by

            @morckx Bummer!
            I am considering two options. Rolling back to a version before this bug was added and just moving totally to vivaldi. The second option is looking better if it also salves the loosing tabs on restart issue and/or losing the ability to display Japanese (on any asian character set) after running for a while.

            What was the last version where this auto-raise was not present?

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            • jamesisin
              jamesisin last edited by

              I have confirmed this is true across several versions of Ubuntu (16,04, 18.04, and 20.04 plus the studio Ubuntu 20.04). It's a giant pain in the ass. Ridiculous this hasn't been addressed over several version releases of Opera itself.

              If I have two windows in close approximation and my mouse passes over them both they will get in this tug-o-war for focus and I'll have to kill Opera to regain control over it.

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              • jamesisin
                jamesisin @IKuyanov last edited by jamesisin

                @ikuyanov I was able to confirm this auto-raise behavior is connected to the "Sloppy" focus setting (on Ubuntu 18.04.6) with "Raise Windows When Focused" turned "Off". Turning "Raise..." "On" also raises Opera windows but does so without the delay observed (correct behavior) in other windows raising.

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                • morckx
                  morckx last edited by

                  The bug is still present in Opera 83.0.4232.0.

                  (I haven't checked yet in which version the bug appeared first).

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                  • FabriceN
                    FabriceN last edited by

                    Same here( Ubuntu 20.04, Mate ) , and still with today's update 😞 . Super aggravating on the small screen of a laptop.

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                    • morckx
                      morckx @morckx last edited by

                      Click-to-raise is still broken on 83.0.4239.0

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                      • sgunhouse
                        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer @morckx last edited by

                        @morckx I presume you mean not raising unless clicked, as the thread is about the window being raised when it is not clicked (if you've set "Focus follows mouse"). The window manager supports programs raising themselves, and the problem is Opera thinks it should be raised when it receives focus.

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                        • morckx
                          morckx @sgunhouse last edited by

                          @sgunhouse

                          Absolutely. Click-to-raise is in so far broken, as a corresponding setting in the window manager is ignored by Opera, auto-raising when it receives focus, without a click.

                          The issue is only present on Linux and not on Mac and Windows.

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                          • AgLupus
                            AgLupus last edited by

                            Just upgraded to latest stable, also tried beta & developer version, still the same. I'm giving up and move to Vivaldi.

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                            • alxobr
                              alxobr @AgLupus last edited by

                              @aglupus Alternatively, you could install an older package.

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                              • paulc
                                paulc @AgLupus last edited by

                                @aglupus I have made the move to Vivaldi. It was a sad day since I've been using Opera as my primary browser on linux for more than 15 years. But, I've exported my bookmarks as html and imported them into Vivaldi without a hitch.

                                Focus follows pointer without auto-raise is essential to my way of working. I never thought that this feature would be the final deal breaker of Opera. Thanks for all of the excellent years of browsing!

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                                • Aplus
                                  Aplus last edited by

                                  You can see from my previous posts, i tried a few different flavors of linux with same result,

                                  I switched over to KDE (manjaro) and Opera works fine there. As I don't see anyone any other pots mentioned KDE, its probably solid on that windows manager

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                                  • FabriceN
                                    FabriceN @Aplus last edited by

                                    @aplus : Maybe, but I'm not going to change the window manager or the mouse focus mode for 1 software that doesn't behave correctly and can be replaced by another.

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                                    • morckx
                                      morckx @morckx last edited by

                                      Still broken in Opera 83.0.4246.0

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                                      • IKuyanov
                                        IKuyanov @Aplus last edited by

                                        @aplus, its strange, that browser cannot work with such a popular window manager like gnome. In addition to this problem, Opera has many other annoying bugs. For example, a dropdown menu bar if you use the keyboard shortcut with "alt" key. These bugs are not fix for a long time (more than a half a year i think) and it is very annoying.

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                                        • FabriceN
                                          FabriceN @IKuyanov last edited by

                                          @ikuyanov : and a recent release broke all the videos.

                                          and recent annoying behaviors ( e.g. on image copy-paste ) recently introduced on chrome are now here too.

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                                          • paulc
                                            paulc @FabriceN last edited by

                                            @fabricen Add to this the inability to handle non-ascii characters (specifically CJK) consistently without resorting to the dreaded rectangles. Also, add the spotty restore of tabs on restart. Opera sometimes forgets all of the new tabs from the last day.
                                            All complex software has bugs and things which do not work the way you would expect. Adding features is more fun than fixing bugs, improving performance, and polishing functions. Is there a publicly visible list of known issues?

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