Is Opera interfering with browsing targets?
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croupf last edited by croupf
Not for me. Almost never; 99 times out of 100 it's "the site unaccessible".
Here, I've just tried and got an empty white page with the message: "This site can’t be reached
The webpage at https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2020/06/10/how-the-covid-19-pandemic-exposes-americas-need-for-resilient-critical-infrastructure/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address." -
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croupf last edited by croupf
@leocg , I don't use any VPNs and don't need to, and I'm on WiFi, no need for "data savings". Like I said, I can connect to this site if I go through a proxy (should be similar to VPN, no?). It looks like the browser "doesn't like" this site, lol. It isn't 100% so --- it had on occasion hooked to it, but it's like 1% of attempts. I keep testing with Chrome: never a problem, not once.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@croupf said in Is Opera interfering with browsing targets?:
It looks like the browser "doesn't like" this site
It seems exactly the opposite, the site doesn't like the browser.
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croupf last edited by leocg
@leocg said in Is Opera interfering with browsing targets?:
@croupf If you can access the page with a proxy, then you are being blocked by them.
How so? The server does know my browser, I think — even with a proxy in between. If it filters me out direct, it'd do so with a proxy as well... That said, I'll look into it: this scenario did not occur to me before.
Could you try testing with data savings enabled?
Will try.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@croupf It may know your browser but it's seeing a different IP address. And depending on the proxy, it's only seeing info from it and not from the browser.
Also, everytime you can access a site using a proxy or VPN and can't uisng the regular connection, it means that the site is blocking you.
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croupf last edited by croupf
@leocg , I've just tested w/ a proxy checker, both a direct connection and a proxied one: the server knows my "user agent" in both cases. At least by default, meaning unless the proxy allows you to pretend to be a different browser and you configured it to do so. Passing through the kind of browser by default makes sense cause it may be important for rendering.
That aside, what you say is interesting. It may indeed be the server, thanks for pointing to this. I'll work on this possibility.
Btw, both opera and chrome are based on chromium. Wonder why/how the server discerns and discriminates (if it is the server). Cause it should look the same to it.
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croupf last edited by
I meant that the "user agent" field contains this list of things. I suppose, this means that these browsers are similar.
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Chrome will include all that except the Opera part. Every user agent I've seen starts with Mozilla (the old Netscape), then Chromium-based browsers will mention khtml and Webkit, then Chrome, and after all that you get Opera.
(Khtml is a Linux rendering engine from the KDE project which Webkit/Safari and Blink/Chrome were based on.)
