<![CDATA[Is Opera interfering with browsing targets?]]>How come pages on the Center for Security Policy site are never accessible from Opera But Are Connected To W/O Any Problem From Other Browsers , like, say, Chrome (or via a proxy)? Try https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2020/06/10/how-the-covid-19-pandemic-exposes-americas-need-for-resilient-critical-infrastructure/ for example.

This site is frequently very critical of the Chinese communist government --- is this why they don't want you to read it?

Tell me what you think. I'm about to trash this browser. Its nothing like the old Opera anyway...

]]>https://forums.opera.com/topic/41403/is-opera-interfering-with-browsing-targetsRSS for NodeThu, 16 Jul 2026 02:38:33 GMTThu, 11 Jun 2020 15:44:25 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 03:00:10 GMT]]>Chrome will include all that except the Opera part. Every user agent I've seen starts with Mozilla (the old Netscape), then Chromium-based browsers will mention khtml and Webkit, then Chrome, and after all that you get Opera.

(Khtml is a Linux rendering engine from the KDE project which Webkit/Safari and Blink/Chrome were based on.)

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214366https://forums.opera.com/post/214366Sun, 14 Jun 2020 03:00:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:52:44 GMT]]>I meant that the "user agent" field contains this list of things. I suppose, this means that these browsers are similar.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214359https://forums.opera.com/post/214359Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:52:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:42:03 GMT]]>@croupf What?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214357https://forums.opera.com/post/214357Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:42:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:26:19 GMT]]>@leocg , it shows a list of things with both chrome and opera in it and something else...

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214355https://forums.opera.com/post/214355Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:26:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 03:19:39 GMT]]>@croupf Sites/servers can differentiate one browser from the other , even those based on the same engine/source.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214174https://forums.opera.com/post/214174Fri, 12 Jun 2020 03:19:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:36:07 GMT]]>@leocg , I've just tested w/ a proxy checker, both a direct connection and a proxied one: the server knows my "user agent" in both cases. At least by default, meaning unless the proxy allows you to pretend to be a different browser and you configured it to do so. Passing through the kind of browser by default makes sense cause it may be important for rendering.

That aside, what you say is interesting. It may indeed be the server, thanks for pointing to this. I'll work on this possibility.

Btw, both opera and chrome are based on chromium. Wonder why/how the server discerns and discriminates (if it is the server). Cause it should look the same to it.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214172https://forums.opera.com/post/214172Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:36:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:04:46 GMT]]>@croupf It may know your browser but it's seeing a different IP address. And depending on the proxy, it's only seeing info from it and not from the browser.

Also, everytime you can access a site using a proxy or VPN and can't uisng the regular connection, it means that the site is blocking you.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214168https://forums.opera.com/post/214168Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:04:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:02:09 GMT]]>@croupf If possible, try with the built-in VPN too.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214167https://forums.opera.com/post/214167Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:02:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:01:43 GMT]]>@leocg said in Is Opera interfering with browsing targets?:

@croupf If you can access the page with a proxy, then you are being blocked by them.

How so? The server does know my browser, I think — even with a proxy in between. If it filters me out direct, it'd do so with a proxy as well... That said, I'll look into it: this scenario did not occur to me before.

Could you try testing with data savings enabled?

Will try.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214165https://forums.opera.com/post/214165Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:01:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:28:15 GMT]]>@croupf said in Is Opera interfering with browsing targets?:

It looks like the browser "doesn't like" this site

It seems exactly the opposite, the site doesn't like the browser.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214163https://forums.opera.com/post/214163Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:28:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:27:26 GMT]]>@croupf If you can access the page with a proxy, then you are being blocked by them.

Could you try testing wuth data savings enabled?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214162https://forums.opera.com/post/214162Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:27:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:08:41 GMT]]>@leocg , I don't use any VPNs and don't need to, and I'm on WiFi, no need for "data savings". Like I said, I can connect to this site if I go through a proxy (should be similar to VPN, no?). It looks like the browser "doesn't like" this site, lol. It isn't 100% so --- it had on occasion hooked to it, but it's like 1% of attempts. I keep testing with Chrome: never a problem, not once.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214157https://forums.opera.com/post/214157Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:08:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 00:12:51 GMT]]>@croupf Does the page loads if you enable the VPN or data savings?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214155https://forums.opera.com/post/214155Fri, 12 Jun 2020 00:12:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 23:13:47 GMT]]>@leocg, I only use adblocker, so I stopped it and tried again: no change, page unaccessible.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214153https://forums.opera.com/post/214153Thu, 11 Jun 2020 23:13:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:58:31 GMT]]>@croupf Did you try disabling adblocker, VPN, data savings?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214123https://forums.opera.com/post/214123Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:58:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:57:39 GMT]]>Not for me. Almost never; 99 times out of 100 it's "the site unaccessible".

Here, I've just tried and got an empty white page with the message: "This site can’t be reached
The webpage at https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2020/06/10/how-the-covid-19-pandemic-exposes-americas-need-for-resilient-critical-infrastructure/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address."

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214121https://forums.opera.com/post/214121Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:57:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:48:14 GMT]]>@croupf It works fine in Opera for Android too.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214119https://forums.opera.com/post/214119Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:48:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:47:12 GMT]]>@croupf So why did you post in Opera for Windows? Moving the topic to Opera for Android.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214118https://forums.opera.com/post/214118Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:47:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:00:27 GMT]]>@leocg , are you using the mobile version? I forgot to mention this... I'm using the android version of it.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214114https://forums.opera.com/post/214114Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:00:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is Opera interfering with browsing targets? on Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:24:43 GMT]]>@croupf No problems opening that page here.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/214112https://forums.opera.com/post/214112Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:24:43 GMT