you guys removed a feature with cookies?
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A Former User last edited by
I agree. Being able to delete individual cookies or other resources for a website was one major advantage opera had over other browsers.
As a developer it was extremely useful for testing since you could clear resources for your testing url without affecting general browsing and logins.A suggestion would be to reintroduce the management screen as alongside this new chrome-esque option as something like "Manage browsing data". That way you maintain the convenience of clearing history the chrome way while not losing the flexibility that existed in the previous version.
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darthagnon last edited by
I really wish I could still view and manage cookies on a per-site basis; it was really useful - e.g. with Mega.co.nz cloud storage downloads, large temp files are stored in browser storage, permanently unless manually deleted. Now, I can't go to one place in settings and delete those temp files like I used to be able to. I have to delete all my browsing data or somesuch. I read above that it's still possible to manage cookies and data per-site, by navigating to said site and clicking on the Omnibox lock - this is extremely unintuitive, and feels like jumping through hoops for something that used to be simple. I prefer to manage cookies from a centralized location, and compare sizes/check to make sure no other site are storing large temp files in my cookies, like Mega.
Unless this is restored, I will be moving back to Opera 53 or 54 and locking myself on that version, as it still allowed me to manage cookies properly, and the settings page still made sense. (That's another story - the new settings page has too much empty space and mobile-style menu flipping, is confusing, and waaaaay too dark - grays look better on PC screens, since they're not OLED)
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darthagnon last edited by
@darthagnon said in you guys removed a feature with cookies?:
I really wish I could still view and manage cookies on a per-site basis; it was really useful - e.g. with Mega.co.nz cloud storage downloads, large temp files are stored in browser storage, permanently unless manually deleted. Now, I can't go to one place in settings and delete those temp files like I used to be able to. I have to delete all my browsing data or somesuch. I read above that it's still possible to manage cookies and data per-site, by navigating to said site and clicking on the Omnibox lock - this is extremely unintuitive, and feels like jumping through hoops for something that used to be simple. I prefer to manage cookies from a centralized location, and compare sizes/check to make sure no other site are storing large temp files in my cookies, like Mega.
Unless this is restored, I will be moving back to Opera 53 or 54 and locking myself on that version, as it still allowed me to manage cookies properly, and the settings page still made sense. (That's another story - the new settings page has too much empty space and mobile-style menu flipping, is confusing, and waaaaay too dark - grays look better on PC screens, since they're not OLED)
Perhaps I judged a little too hastily - it looks like the per-site cookies management is still there, at opera://settings/siteData?search=cookies
It's just buried under a million smartphone-style menus. I made a shortcut to it on my bookmarks bar.
Opera's not so bad... (yet)
PS I guess I can live with the overly dark settings page. Hopefully they'll get rid of "suggested extensions" popup ads in the browser, and reorganise the settings page a bit more logically.
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A Former User last edited by
@leocg I see, kinda strange for you guys to remove it from the normal settings but at least its still there. thanks
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darthagnon last edited by darthagnon
@leocg said in you guys removed a feature with cookies?:
You could have read the topic before posting, this way you would know that the option were still there.
With all due respect, Sir/Madam,
I did read the topic before posting; my impression from reading was that the per-site cookies management page had been ditched, and replaced with a different function on the Omnibox "lock". ...Or that my initial impression, that I could now only delete all cookies, was the inconvenient truth.It was only after 20mins of searching that I re-discovered the per-site cookies management page was still there, albeit well hidden behind obtusely named options and 4 layers of smartphone-style settings flip menus* and a lot of scrolling .
PS * = layer 1: Advanced Settings dropdown; layer 2: generic "Content Settings"; layer 3: "Cookies" (why is the cookies list not at this layer, as name suggests?!); layer 4: "See all cookies and site data"; previous versions of Opera, if I remember, had a button in the main settings list called "Cookies", and clicking on it brought up a little window with all the cookies and site data - while the window was too small, it was still a lot more logical and convenient than what we have now.
PPS Though I am another respondent, I would personally define 'normal settings' as 'settings available via a single link in the main settings window' (as they used to be...). Cookies buried under four layers of menus and a lot of scrolling, in "Advanced settings" (NB most of these are not that advanced, and should be under "Settings" in my opinion) are not under 'normal settings', but well hidden.
PPPS Lest it come off as too negative, the settings reorganisation does have some neat new options, e.g. sites to clear on exit, and they're grouped logically; it's just that they're buried too far, under too many submenus, on the main settings page, and the sections in the main settings list aren't very well separated. Too much has gone into "Advanced", and submenus, where some of the key settings are, are not searchable.
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
Opera v55.0.2994.56, Win 8 64Bit
As explained above, cookie management is still in Opera v55, you just have to follow the cookie trail in settings... But I seem to have a problem using it.
In settings/content/cookies there are three categories for how to treat cookies: Block, Clear on exit, Allow. Entries for particular sites can be entered in one of these categories.
I added 'doubleclick DOT net' to the Block category, yet I still see 'doubleclick DOT net' cookies after browsing.
Does this mean this option is not working correctly, or am I not understanding something?
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
DI'd you look? I haven't checked in the new version, but in the old version adding a site-specific setting caused the site to appear in the list - it wasn't until you tried to look at the actual cookie data that you found out it was just blocked.
On the other hand, blocking cookies may not throw away old cookies, so it could just be you're seeing cookies you already had.
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sharkyca last edited by
@darthagnon
I too am not happy with the "New" settings page since the release of version "55". In a previous post this was the answer I recieved which has helped, also need to turn off "auto_update.exe" by renaming the file.From @burnout426 "For now, you can disable opera://flags/#new-md-settings to get the old settings page back. The option might get removed eventually though."
The above pics shows my display of "settings" with the flag disabled.
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darthagnon last edited by
Thanks for posting about the flag option to disable the new settings; didn't realise it existed!
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A Former User last edited by
@sgunhouse said in you guys removed a feature with cookies?:
DI'd you look? I haven't checked in the new version, but in the old version adding a site-specific setting caused the site to appear in the list - it wasn't until you tried to look at the actual cookie data that you found out it was just blocked.
On the other hand, blocking cookies may not throw away old cookies, so it could just be you're seeing cookies you already had.
Nope. I 'Block' them, I browse they appear. I delete them, I browse, they come back.
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
Uh?
I just found 'doubleclick DOT net' listed under Allow! How did that happen? Have moved it back to Block...
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A Former User last edited by
@xpvb48
'doubleclick DOT net' cookie STILL present though listed under Block.
So what are settings for?
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@leocg said in you guys removed a feature with cookies?:
Did you see https://forums.opera.com/post/154752?
Yeah? I looked at the BLOCKED 'doubleclick DOT net' cookie and it contained the following text:
- Name IDE
Content AHWqTUlmIJ6t16krAvdcxSGtvag14g6E6lwQwMd0I_I6_7An4q7scJ7hhQf1ZC7_
Domain .doubleclick.net
Path /
Send for Any kind of connection
Accessible to script No (HttpOnly)
Created Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 22:07:47
Expires Friday, 11 October 2019 at 22:07:46
so...
- Name IDE
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A Former User last edited by
@leocg said in you guys removed a feature with cookies?:
I've added a couple of entries in the block list and, so far, I'm not seeing any cookies for those ones in the list of cookies.
So either there is something odd about 'doubleclick DOT net' cookies, or your Opera is not behaving like my Opera.
I will repeat the exercise with some other cookies and see what happens to them.
