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    Opera takes 3 seconds to initially load, but everything else is super fast. Can't figure out! Help, please!

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    • donq
      donq @LawGuy last edited by

      @lawguy
      Some 3rd party antivirus / security suite? (if yes, turn it off for testing)
      Autoupdate? (you can rename/delete autoupdater somewhere in opera folders)
      Proxy detection? (you can disable that in windows internet options, lan settings)

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      • LawGuy
        LawGuy last edited by

        Hi guys!

        Thanks so much for the replies!

        Yup... three seconds. Brutal! Amazing how spoiled we are, eh? Believe me, my first modem was a 300 baud one with a physical switch for Answer/Originate.

        I spent a tiny fortune on this rig - so yeah, three seconds is a lot! Heck, it was enough to make Firefox my default browser.

        Great suggestions, above.

        I didn't think of downloading Chrome. I'll give it a shot.

        No third-party antivirus apps here - just the default one that came with Win10 Pro.

        I'll check out the proxy and autoupdate settings tomorrow, and report back.

        I'm sure this didn't happen when I first set up the computer. Report to follow! Thanks again!

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        • LawGuy
          LawGuy last edited by

          Hi again!

          Turned off Proxy detection and Removed Auto Update.. Still slow!

          Installed Chrome, and interestingly, it, too has a slight delay upon launch... about 1.5 seconds.

          Again, Firefox; Edge; IE... all instantaneous. Control-N for a new instance of Opera.. Instantaneous.

          Chrome did have a bit of delay, but certainly not the 3 or 4 seconds that Opera takes to load.

          Interestingly, I noticed that when I close Opera, my mouse pointer has an hourglass alongside it for the same length of time - about three seconds - as when I load the app.

          Something is happening upon launch and upon exit.

          It's really a shame, because I truly love everything else about Opera. I'd sure love to figure this out!

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          • A Former User
            A Former User @LawGuy last edited by

            @lawguy
            The hourglass for a brief period after you close Opera's window is almost certainly it writing its data to the hard drive before actually shutting down. If you look in the Windows Task Manager processes list, I suspect you will see that the program doesn't actually shut down as soon as you close the window, which is very common behaviour by many programs.
            🙂

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            • donq
              donq @LawGuy last edited by

              @lawguy
              Weird. I have got PC at about a half of your spec (M2 SSD is present however), Opera starts (with about 10 enabled extensions and 20 tabs) in 1-2 seconds (this may correspond to your chrome engine delay). IE is instant, but it is set to display empty screen. No firefox or chrome here to test.

              Well, I have disabled news and removed everything other from new tab screen - but this should not affect Opera startup very much.

              Then I have disabled opera sitecheck (in hosts file) - but this should not affect startup time either - or does? (You can use Fiddler to analyze Opera startup traffic.)

              Then I have sync disabled.

              In advanced settings I have "Delay loading of background tabs" checked, other options do not seem likely to affect startup speed.

              In opera://flags (experiments) I have Simple cache for HTTP enabled - although I do not recall any startup time difference with default cache either.

              Of course I have tweaked Windows itself to behave more like W95/XP, but this affects overall impression and not specific applications. Cortana, onedrive and some other background resource hogs are disabled or removed.

              Then my screen is old-fashioned 19" - but again, this should help games (if I played them) - but not Opera startup.

              No more ideas at the moment.

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              • LawGuy
                LawGuy last edited by

                Thanks, donq, for the suggestions, I am going to try them.
                And yes, Dave, I do understand that programs will write to the hard drive; delete temp files; etc, upon closing, but to see an hourglass for three seconds... I have no other app that does that.

                And as for my SSD, again, we are talking about a Samsung 960 PRO 2TB M.2 chip right on the motherboard.

                Windows 10 takes literally 9 seconds to boot up on my system. Opera takes a third of that time! 😉

                I do have six very large, high-res monitors attached to the system, powered by two EVGA GeForce 1080ti FTW cards. Wonder if multi-monitor support affects anything.

                Now, I just noticed something interesting...

                I just opened Operate and looked at the Task Manager. Is this normal behaviour?

                One tab opens at start... Just the screen with the Speed Dials and a Google search box.

                Is it normal to see so many subprocesses like that?

                Thanks!
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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @LawGuy last edited by

                  @lawguy said in Opera takes 3 seconds to initially load, but everything else is super fast. Can't figure out! Help, please!:

                  .
                  Is it normal to see so many subprocesses like that?

                  Yes.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @LawGuy last edited by A Former User

                    @lawguy the opera 52.0.2871.40 u r run 'n is 64 bit..

                    New update Stable 52.0.2871.64 now..

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                    • donq
                      donq @LawGuy last edited by

                      @lawguy said in Opera takes 3 seconds to initially load, but everything else is super fast. Can't figure out! Help, please!:

                      Windows 10 takes literally 9 seconds to boot up on my system. Opera takes a third of that time! 😉

                      My W10 takes 5-6 seconds to boot. Literally. Yet again, half spec cause half time 😉 Well, I have no external video card, this may change things.
                      I know one image processing program, which uses GPU and does run about four times faster, if one in graphic card properties sets priority to programs, not to games. Sorry I don't know how exact settings are named.

                      Is it normal to see so many subprocesses like that?

                      Thanks!
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                      I would say that many sub-processes are okay, but why are there console host, command processor and this 1Password thingie? On my system, there are only opera browser sub-processes. If you disable your extensions, do these strange entries vanish? Just wondering.

                      And I'm using 32bit Opera.

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                      • sgunhouse
                        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        1Password is an extension.

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                        • LawGuy
                          LawGuy last edited by

                          Guys! I solved it!
                          Opera officially loads up in about a quarter of a second now!

                          Here's the scoop:
                          I have two EVGA GeForce 1080TI FTW graphics cards, each running three monitors.

                          I tried disabling one of my cards, and it was blazing fast! I also tried booting in Safe Mode, and again - it was super fast!

                          I tried all sorts of adjustments... SLI... Display spanning... I even removed my SLI bridge between both cards. All to no avail The minute I enabled all six monitors - there was my 3-second lag again.

                          I uninstalled the nvidia drivers. This gave me one screen of course, and five blank ones.

                          I then wanted to try again, so I went to device manager and Scanned for Changes.

                          All six monitors lit up again... and.......... I clicked on Opera....... and...

                          The program literally loaded the split second (nanosecond?!) I clicked my mouse. Amazing.

                          Thank you all so much for all the suggestions! I can't believe it's solved. It seems like other apps are snappier, too.

                          Thanks guys!

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User @LawGuy last edited by

                            @lawguy
                            Good news, glad you solved it!
                            I guess there must have been something in the graphics driver installation that was causing the lag, which reinstalling it has fixed. That could have potentially caused a delay with other programs as well as Opera of course.
                            🙂

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              Topic closed as solved. If in up until to a month the author needs the thread to be reopened, just report it. briefly explaining the reason.

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